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#121 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 23 November 2014 - 05:37 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 23 November 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

It's an opinion! We all have them son



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Posted 24 November 2014 - 07:05 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 23 November 2014 - 04:37 PM, said:

It's an opinion! We all have them son


Thanks for that fella.




It may well be an opinion, but I would suggest a knee jerk reaction to the by-election result and probably thinking folk from Chesterfield will have no knowledge of the place. To call the place the biggest ******** in England is totally bizarre especially when you consider what we have on our doorstep up here north of Luton ( why have I mentioned Luton?)

A few hours on Rochester high street browsing round the various outlets (especially the 2nd hand book shops One of which claims to be the biggest in the county) and then relaxing in the Coopers Arms is time very well spent.

Easily comparable to spending time in shall we say some south Yorkshire town

What's your knowledge of Horsham as I may be spending a few hours there on Saturday?



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#123 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 26 November 2014 - 03:46 PM

EU announce a 315 billion Euro investment plan, however only 21 billion is coming from the "fund" with just 16billion Euro from the EU. So they are looking to borrow 299 BILLION Euros - a massive amount of money.

To put it into context, thats a leverage rate of 15,(normally the max would be around 10) so the interest payments will be significantly higher than you would normally expect, due to the increased risk.

They (EU) expect to create many jobs, over 1 million - so you would expect the unions to be behind this wouldnt you? Not a bit of it. The leader of the European TUC, Bernadette Segol, said " The EU commision id relying on a `loaves and fishes` style miracle, she said she did not believe that €315bn could be raised from €21bn, a leverage factor of 15 which the ETUC argued was `almost certainly unrealistic`....."

So the debt ridden Euro Zone is going to borrow another 300 Billion at high interest rates.

Am I the only one who can see a problem with this?
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 06:09 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 26 November 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

EU announce a 315 billion Euro investment plan, however only 21 billion is coming from the "fund" with just 16billion Euro from the EU. So they are looking to borrow 299 BILLION Euros - a massive amount of money.

To put it into context, thats a leverage rate of 15,(normally the max would be around 10) so the interest payments will be significantly higher than you would normally expect, due to the increased risk.

They (EU) expect to create many jobs, over 1 million - so you would expect the unions to be behind this wouldnt you? Not a bit of it. The leader of the European TUC, Bernadette Segol, said " The EU commision id relying on a `loaves and fishes` style miracle, she said she did not believe that €315bn could be raised from €21bn, a leverage factor of 15 which the ETUC argued was `almost certainly unrealistic`....."

So the debt ridden Euro Zone is going to borrow another 300 Billion at high interest rates.

Am I the only one who can see a problem with this?


Pope Francis likened Europe to a grandmother on Tuesday, "no longer fertile and vibrant"
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Posted 26 November 2014 - 06:57 PM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 26 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

Pope Francis likened Europe to a grandmother on Tuesday, "no longer fertile and vibrant"


The Pope has probably lead a sheltered life and doesn't realise that most grandmothers will be saving themselves for Thursday nights :closedeyes:
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Posted 27 November 2014 - 07:15 PM

View Postclarevoyant., on 24 November 2014 - 07:05 PM, said:

Thanks for that fella.




It may well be an opinion, but I would suggest a knee jerk reaction to the by-election result and probably thinking folk from Chesterfield will have no knowledge of the place. To call the place the biggest ******** in England is totally bizarre especially when you consider what we have on our doorstep up here north of Luton ( why have I mentioned Luton?)

A few hours on Rochester high street browsing round the various outlets (especially the 2nd hand book shops One of which claims to be the biggest in the county) and then relaxing in the Coopers Arms is time very well spent.

Easily comparable to spending time in shall we say some south Yorkshire town

What's your knowledge of Horsham as I may be spending a few hours there on Saturday?


Horsham is a lovely little place I lived there for a few years.
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 07:10 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 26 November 2014 - 03:46 PM, said:

EU announce a 315 billion Euro investment plan, however only 21 billion is coming from the "fund" with just 16billion Euro from the EU. So they are looking to borrow 299 BILLION Euros - a massive amount of money.

To put it into context, thats a leverage rate of 15,(normally the max would be around 10) so the interest payments will be significantly higher than you would normally expect, due to the increased risk.

They (EU) expect to create many jobs, over 1 million - so you would expect the unions to be behind this wouldnt you? Not a bit of it. The leader of the European TUC, Bernadette Segol, said " The EU commision id relying on a `loaves and fishes` style miracle, she said she did not believe that €315bn could be raised from €21bn, a leverage factor of 15 which the ETUC argued was `almost certainly unrealistic`....."

So the debt ridden Euro Zone is going to borrow another 300 Billion at high interest rates.

Am I the only one who can see a problem with this?


How do you borrow money that doesn't seem to exist? How can it be possible that every country seems to have a national debt? Owed to who?
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Posted 28 November 2014 - 09:33 AM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 28 November 2014 - 07:10 AM, said:

How do you borrow money that doesn't seem to exist? How can it be possible that every country seems to have a national debt? Owed to who?


Central banks, Traders, IMF.....and China is now a big player in global finance
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