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#41 User is offline   Wooden Spoon 

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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:08 PM

View Postazul, on 26 July 2014 - 09:27 AM, said:

I see Leeds can pay on the day in the away end. They were only sent 1500 which they have sold


View PostElton John 1866, on 26 July 2014 - 09:53 AM, said:

Chris turner said they had sold 2000 tickets in the media!!!

View PostSpire-Power, on 26 July 2014 - 03:59 PM, said:

just over 4000 at the game. 1700 from leeds



View Postnot_the_freak, on 26 July 2014 - 04:05 PM, said:

We'll get slated by DA now for not having 8k turn out.




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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:09 PM

View Postsophocles, on 27 July 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:

When your home attendance is only a few hundred more than the away attendance that is a poor turnout.

Not when you consider the level and geographical proximity of the opposition it's not.

Over 2,000 home fans is a decent turn out given the time of year and the weather (and the other local entertainment on offer).

Leeds are one of the best supported teams in the country, and being less than an hour away was always gonna attract many of their fans.

Getting about 50% of your normal home attendance, is pretty good too.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:10 PM

View Postsophocles, on 27 July 2014 - 12:09 PM, said:

When your home attendance is only a few hundred more than the away attendance that is a poor turnout. It is also 100% the club's own fault, as there was a huge potential market with kids on school holidays and probably many parents off too. £10 for adults and £2 for kids would, IMO have dramatically increased the attendance and sales of food, drink etc. A large number witnessing an excellent performance could also have encouraged more to come to League games, or even to buy a season ticket. I agree that we (the Chesterfield area public) will get the team quality we're prepared to pay for, but it doesn't help if the club misses revenue opportunities through poor marketing.


A poor turnout? Really?

How many pre season friendlies have you been to that had a higher turnout and £15 price?

NONE.



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Posted 27 July 2014 - 03:15 PM

View PostSammy Spireite, on 27 July 2014 - 03:09 PM, said:

Not when you consider the level and geographical proximity of the opposition it's not.

Over 2,000 home fans is a decent turn out given the time of year and the weather (and the other local entertainment on offer).

Leeds are one of the best supported teams in the country, and being less than an hour away was always gonna attract many of their fans.

Getting about 50% of your normal home attendance, is pretty good too.


don't worry - its just soppy lining up ready for one of his attacks on the fanbase of CFC.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

View Postvalemadness, on 27 July 2014 - 09:48 AM, said:

Only 1 friendly since we moved to the new ground had a larger attendance than yesterday and that was the 1st game v Derby that was over 7500. So although some people may think yesterday's attendance was poor, it was actually our 2nd highest friendly attendance.

The Sheffield Wednesday friendly last pre-season was also bigger than yesterdays Leeds attendance. We should have played them again this season because like them or not they will always fill the away end which means more money for us. The Villa game could well be a low turnout because they are in the States at the moment , so it will most likely be there youth team like it was in a pre-season game at Saltergate a few seasons ago.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:49 PM

I do find it amusing how some people are so ready to risk lower entrance fees for games like this when it's not their money to lose. Statements about£10 (or less) admission would have had a great increase in numbers are fine, but what happens if it doesn't? What if the attendance represented exactly the level of interest for this game but we had charged £5 less for it and made a loss on it, I am of course assuming we didn't anyway, what then? My point is pricing of events like this a complicated business and I would like to think the people at the club, whose job it is to think about these things know their business and don't just pluck these figures out of thin air, and some thought has gone into it. We will end up with the players budget we (the people of Chesterfield) are prepared to fund by attending matches and no more.

Here's hoping to crowds of 7000 plus, if not we only have ourselves to blame in my opinion, unless you feel the only way to go is to live on the vagaries of a sugar daddy owner and not funded by the fans who watch their team, I prefer the latter personally.
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Posted 27 July 2014 - 09:58 PM

View PostOdysseus, on 27 July 2014 - 09:49 PM, said:

I do find it amusing how some people are so ready to risk lower entrance fees for games like this when it's not their money to lose. Statements about£10 (or less) admission would have had a great increase in numbers are fine, but what happens if it doesn't? What if the attendance represented exactly the level of interest for this game but we had charged £5 less for it and made a loss on it, I am of course assuming we didn't anyway, what then? My point is pricing of events like this a complicated business and I would like to think the people at the club, whose job it is to think about these things know their business and don't just pluck these figures out of thin air, and some thought has gone into it. We will end up with the players budget we (the people of Chesterfield) are prepared to fund by attending matches and no more.


Yep. They have proved that they are adept at putting thought into all manner of financial matters.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:01 AM

View PostGoku, on 27 July 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

Yep. They have proved that they are adept at putting thought into all manner of financial matters.

Why so negative about everything?
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:32 AM

Surely the fact that many families went on holiday this weekend (busiest of year at UK airports) had some effect on attendance. Also Leeds are not the draw they once were and were pretty poor on the day. I wonder how long it will be before their coach gets fired by the crazy Italian
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 06:51 AM

View PostOdysseus, on 27 July 2014 - 09:49 PM, said:

I do find it amusing how some people are so ready to risk lower entrance fees for games like this when it's not their money to lose. Statements about£10 (or less) admission would have had a great increase in numbers are fine, but what happens if it doesn't? What if the attendance represented exactly the level of interest for this game but we had charged £5 less for it and made a loss on it, I am of course assuming we didn't anyway, what then? My point is pricing of events like this a complicated business and I would like to think the people at the club, whose job it is to think about these things know their business and don't just pluck these figures out of thin air, and some thought has gone into it. We will end up with the players budget we (the people of Chesterfield) are prepared to fund by attending matches and no more.

Here's hoping to crowds of 7000 plus, if not we only have ourselves to blame in my opinion, unless you feel the only way to go is to live on the vagaries of a sugar daddy owner and not funded by the fans who watch their team, I prefer the latter personally.


What if making it kids for a quid results in another 50 kids getting their parents to bring them to a few more games a year? And a shirt? And a coke/ sausage roll every time they come? Something from the shop at Christmas? Surely then the lower fees are worth it? All you do by putting prices at £15 is entice the hardcore supporter to come, most of whom will already be coming over the next 9 months.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 07:31 AM

How much was Matlock v Chesterfield, Alfreton v Chesterfield???

Wouldn't you agree that Chesterfield v Leeds would warrant a higher ticket price than our other pre season games??

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:10 AM

View Post1978blue, on 27 July 2014 - 08:47 PM, said:

The Sheffield Wednesday friendly last pre-season was also bigger than yesterdays Leeds attendance. We should have played them again this season because like them or not they will always fill the away end which means more money for us. The Villa game could well be a low turnout because they are in the States at the moment , so it will most likely be there youth team like it was in a pre-season game at Saltergate a few seasons ago.


No it won't, they played their final game in the states yesterday
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:21 AM

View Postharboroughspireite, on 28 July 2014 - 06:51 AM, said:

What if making it kids for a quid results in another 50 kids getting their parents to bring them to a few more games a year? And a shirt? And a coke/ sausage roll every time they come? Something from the shop at Christmas? Surely then the lower fees are worth it? All you do by putting prices at £15 is entice the hardcore supporter to come, most of whom will already be coming over the next 9 months.


I'm not having a go at you but that is exactly my point, asking what if we did this or that is great for us because we have nothing to lose and it makes for good discussions. The club however have to make hard headed business decisions that have real consequences so I am a little more forgiving of the club perhaps erring on the side of caution when it comes to match pricing. Would I like more things like kids for a quid to encourage future supporters, yes, but not at too great a risk. What I personally want more than anything is a club run financially prudently for the best long term success we can sustain.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:27 AM

We had the friendly pricing debate the other year when the club charged £14 for a friendly against Coventry that only attracted a couple of thousand.

Last season the club offered a decent deal of 3 friendlies Huddersfield, Forest and Wolves for £20, whilst the Wednesday game was priced separately at £12.

I've not got the numbers to hand but I don't recall there being much difference in the number of home fans attending these games compared to Saturday.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:43 AM

View PostBeelzebub, on 28 July 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

Why so negative about everything?


He's not being negative. He's simply pointing out that they messed up the figures.
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Posted 28 July 2014 - 09:38 AM

View PostBeelzebub, on 28 July 2014 - 06:01 AM, said:

Why so negative about everything?


Why should I trust the club with anything finance-wise?

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:09 AM

View Postmoondog, on 28 July 2014 - 08:27 AM, said:

We had the friendly pricing debate the other year when the club charged £14 for a friendly against Coventry that only attracted a couple of thousand.

Last season the club offered a decent deal of 3 friendlies Huddersfield, Forest and Wolves for £20, whilst the Wednesday game was priced separately at £12.

I've not got the numbers to hand but I don't recall there being much difference in the number of home fans attending these games compared to Saturday.





I think on the occasions where they priced up cheaper than you'd expect, it still hasn't had the desired returns. Morecambe was £12 and we only got 4,900 fans in (partially due to an abysmal away following)

And as you said from those friendlies - The attendance wasn't too much different to the Leeds game. You can see why the club do it - it is still very pricey just for a friendly though

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:17 AM

View PostOdysseus, on 27 July 2014 - 09:49 PM, said:

I do find it amusing how some people are so ready to risk lower entrance fees for games like this when it's not their money to lose. Statements about£10 (or less) admission would have had a great increase in numbers are fine, but what happens if it doesn't? What if the attendance represented exactly the level of interest for this game but we had charged £5 less for it and made a loss on it, I am of course assuming we didn't anyway, what then? My point is pricing of events like this a complicated business and I would like to think the people at the club, whose job it is to think about these things know their business and don't just pluck these figures out of thin air, and some thought has gone into it. We will end up with the players budget we (the people of Chesterfield) are prepared to fund by attending matches and no more.

Here's hoping to crowds of 7000 plus, if not we only have ourselves to blame in my opinion, unless you feel the only way to go is to live on the vagaries of a sugar daddy owner and not funded by the fans who watch their team, I prefer the latter personally.


great post!

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