[Bonnyman]

Just a thought but why cannot syndicates buy players, they could loan them free of charge to their home club and sell them if they turn out well ....They can also melt them down for glue if they don't come up to scratch..only joking...but why cannot it happen or is it some form of slavery?

[Westbars Spireite]

Third party ownership of players? Rules about that I believe.

[Cartman]

bonnyman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

Just a thought but why cannot syndicates buy players, they could loan them free of charge to their home club and sell them if they turn out well ....They can also melt them down for glue if they don't come up to scratch..only joking...but why cannot it happen or is it some form of slavery?

you mean like what happened with Mascherano and Tevez?

because it is against the rules in football

[Bonnyman]

No , they were bought buy their respective clubs, I mean can you buy a player and just give him to your club for a season or however long

[Westbars Spireite]

How would that be different to you giving the cash to the club to do it themselves?

[Cartman]

bonnyman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:

No , they were bought buy their respective clubs, I mean can you buy a player and just give him to your club for a season or however long

No they were owned by Kia Joobri-wotsit's company and loaned out to West Ham

This is why West Ham got in loads of trouble and the Blunts thought they should have stayed up in their place

[Bonnyman]

Because they would take the profit if the player was wanted by another club

Cartman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:40 PM, said:

No they were owned by Kia Joobri-wotsit's company and loaned out to West Ham

This is why West Ham got in loads of trouble and the Blunts thought they should have stayed up in their place

Oh right so West ham did not actually purchase tevez ?

[Norton Blue]

The other way to do it is to sponsor a player? Building up a fund to bring in a new player. Haven't we tried that before?

[Wooden Spoon]

Cartman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:40 PM, said:

No they were owned by Kia Joobri-wotsit's company and loaned out to West Ham

This is why West Ham got in loads of trouble and the Blunts thought they should have stayed up in their place

3rd party ownership isn't against FL/FA rules, but any and all 3rd party owners have to be declared to the FA/FL when registering the player. West Ham didn't notify that there was 3rd parties involved, just that had loaned the player from the current club

[Cartman]

bonnyman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:44 PM, said:

Because they would take the profit if the player was wanted by another club


Oh right so West ham did not actually purchase tevez ?

not sure if they did in the end

but certainly at the start of the loans both Tevez and Masherano were owned by a company

http://www.theguardi...evez-mascherano

[azul]

bonnyman, on 22 July 2014 - 05:16 PM, said:

Just a thought but why cannot syndicates buy players, they could loan them free of charge to their home club and sell them if they turn out well ....They can also melt them down for glue if they don't come up to scratch..only joking...but why cannot it happen or is it some form of slavery?

I owned a share in a race horse with a work colleague a few years back. it was a mare called Petite Margo. She won loads off novice races and I doubled the value of my share. Tripled it by the time you added the wins at the bookies

Next season the owner didn't offer shares in her and entered into bigger races. Completely flopped don't know where the horse is now. As you say probably made into glue and corned beef

Anyway the moral of the story is? Not sure!

However sounds like a great idea but possibly a bit politically incorrect

This post has been edited by azul: 22 July 2014 - 06:04 PM

[Bonnyman]

I remember her she was trained by twist on davies

[azul]

bonnyman, on 22 July 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

I remember her she was trained by twist on davies

Correct, workmate was his cousin (the poor side of the family I guess)

Don't think the lady made the grade, she would be 12/13 by now, grazing in a field I hope

[starsky72]

Corned beef...?

[azul]

starsky72, on 22 July 2014 - 09:43 PM, said:

Corned beef...?

I'm naive, I thought they made corned beef out of anything that was on the slaughterhouse floor

[Bonnyman]

azul, on 22 July 2014 - 09:58 PM, said:

I'm naive, I thought they made corned beef out of anything that was on the slaughterhouse floor

She is actually 15 ..interestingly she has produced a foal which is now 8 which is unusual as she was according to records still racing...last race was in 2011 and she was at best 130 rated which is a decent little handicapper...also she was very well bred so perhaps the owner had a view of keeping her for the paddocks.

[Nassau_board]

I think a lot changed when his owner (who also owned Ollie Magern) died in 2012. Not heard about where she is since, but as they bred their own horses I suspect she is still at their farm/yard.

[Sheffield Blue]

Could do crowd sourcing.

[Bonnyman]

Nassau_board, on 23 July 2014 - 07:44 AM, said:

I think a lot changed when his owner (who also owned Ollie Magern) died in 2012. Not heard about where she is since, but as they bred their own horses I suspect she is still at their farm/yard.

ollie megern was a horse I religiously backed due to my kids being called ollie and Megan. ..went to kempton boxing day to back it and it won the Feltham chase

[azul]

bonnyman, on 23 July 2014 - 08:08 AM, said:

ollie megern was a horse I religiously backed due to my kids being called ollie and Megan. ..went to kempton boxing day to back it and it won the Feltham chase

think the two were actually related