NOKIN, on 09 October 2015 - 07:18 PM, said:
I disagree mate, I don't think it's fair to say this forum represents a cross section of those who turn out on the day. 5-6000 home fans, with what, I think I'm being generous if I say 40 - 50 regular posters on here? You're Just stabbing in the dark if you're being completely honest about what you think. I could easily say it doesn't represent anywhere near what the general consensus is but I would have absolutely nothing to back that up and we all know how you like people to back up what they put on here.
People will have objective view either way and there's nothing wrong with that. If people want to be positive, defensive, call it what you like, is that wrong? Same goes the other way too. Unfortunately, what this message board does display is that there is very little tolerance either way. If you want me to back that up let me know, I can start with the contacts between yer sen and "h"
We will always go through periods like this and my experience it's always the same two sided bickering and always the same people. It's how it is. Me, I prefer to sit on the fence, probably leaning more to the optimistic side but always weary of what happens upstairs in the boardroom. Only a fool would trust everything that comes out of a football club.
For me, what has happened in the highest echelons of world football is bound to have been filtered down to all levels. In football, I trust no one, sorry to say not even deepthroat.
Everyone claims to have knowledge but do they? Really? Maybe they think they do and that's good enough for them.
What really matters to me is my enjoyment, that's really what I buy my ticket for, everything else, including message boards and social media etc. well it's just pretend isn't it?
It's ok to be pessimistic, or negative towards the people running the club and the manager, but anyone who is positive or is willing to be patient and wait to see how things develop in time, and hope that a bad run is just a blip and things will improve as time goes on gets ridiculed by regular posters on here who claim to know better than anyone else, and can't wait to tell people "I told you so".
Talk of the Saltergate days was mentioned earlier, I hoped that things would turn around when Richardson was manager, not many fans were willing to give him time to learn, maybe I'm more patient than most people, or more understanding that some things take time, he was the wrong choice of manager to get us promoted back to league one straight away as he needed time to develop, time that we didn't have as league two football isn't good for bums on seats etc. Because I understand that some things take time people who are impatient think I am unambitious. I do want to see us in the championship, but I'm not impatient about it, we had a very good chance last season and were the closest we've ever been in my lifetime, however because we overachieved other clubs came in for our better players and there's no way we can offer wages that Burnley and Hull can offer our best players, I also don't think it's fair to stop young players leaving for much better clubs, like Tendayi and Clucas did. At the end of the day we are a selling club as last season proved we can only attract so many people to games, and it isn't enough to compete with the bigger teams.
This season I will be happy if we are generally in the top half of the table, hopefully flirting with the play offs again, mid table is acceptable at the moment as we are having a bad run, I really hope we don't get sucked into the relegation zone as it's hard to get out of and we don't want to end up back in the league two again. I do however understand that the players we have now aren't as good as last season, and many of the younger players are still learning, but we have chosen to develop players so we need to be patient and not expect them to be faultless. I fail to believe Saunders will get us relegated just because he has suffered relegation with three clubs previously, it wasn't like the clubs were in a good position when he took over and they nosedived under his management and subsequently got them relegated. There were reasons that were out of his control. I'm not saying he was blameless regarding the relegations, no manager makes no mistakes, but I am not someone who fears everything will go wrong, like quite a few people do. I go to games and hope that we can win, I'm pretty sure there are people who support our club who hope that we lose games so that it will be another nail in the managers coffin and they can brag about being right about whoever the manager is.
Like H, I've had stick on here for being positive, supporting my club, and remaining patient while we are having a bad run of results. I can understand why many people have stopped posting on here cos generally if you don't have the same views of the people who constantly slag off the manager and the board you are said to be deluded. Basically you aren't allowed an opinion unless it's the same as the resident doom mongers. I started posting on here again recently, and didn't intend to post as regularly as I used to do. Last night made me realise that I enjoy supporting my club a lot more when I'm not surrounded by people who constantly moan about everything to do with the club, looking for faults with everything people involved with the club do, whether true or not. Bob's board is useful at times, to find information out, but quite a few people on here obviously have too much time on their hands as they seem happy in their world of misery, constantly moaning about the club they for some reason support and get kicks out of pulling people down who don't have the same opinion as themselves.
I don't expect people who disagree with me to understand my post, or my ways of thinking, you'll probably just disagree with everything I've said and say it's a load of poppycock, and insult me in some way like you usually do, which would totally prove my point.
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