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Sack The Board We're All Doomed, Allen Out!,

#1 User is offline   paulwardle 

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:23 PM

I cannot believe the negativity of this Forum before we've even kicked a ball in anger.

No money, dwindling crowds, unhappy manager, Roberts on his way out, Christ Turner going on a Foreign holiday.

Every year it's the same old rubbish. Best if everyone goes on their Hols and come back when Season is about to start.

Fact remains that we don't have masses of cash and whether the budget is wrong or not should we expect Allen to keep putting his hand in his pocket?

How many of our 6,000 average crowd would hand over an extra £100 NOW to provide Paul Cook with some extra funds for player budgets? Answer. Not many.

So let's stop the moaning and get behind our Club, it's Manager Chairman and players and start talking positively in what will be a challenging season.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:27 PM

Listen Duckie, tell me which fan isn't behind this club, this manager, these players? They all are, but we don't like mistakes being made when they are easily avoided. Whoever Christ Turner is, he needs to clarify his role again.
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

Hi Chris :lol:
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 10:55 PM

View PostWestbars Spireite, on 23 July 2014 - 10:47 PM, said:

Hi Chris :lol:


ha ha

not me, just one of the few other sensible posters on here

:rolleyes:
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:03 PM

View PostCartman, on 23 July 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

ha ha

not me, just one of the few other sensible posters on here

:rolleyes:

sycophant you mean :wacko:
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Posted 23 July 2014 - 11:23 PM

View PostCartman, on 23 July 2014 - 10:55 PM, said:

ha ha

not me, just one of the few other sensible posters on here

:rolleyes:


Yep, such a sensible thing to ask supporters to put £100 of their own money into the club after most of them will have spent £340+ on the increased season ticket prices. To even compare that to what Dave Allen is or arguably should (in some people's eyes, not necessarily mine) be doing. If this is your idea of sensible then no wonder we're worlds apart on where we are at the minute.

As for his claims;

View Postpaulwardle, on 23 July 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

No money, dwindling crowds, unhappy manager, Roberts on his way out, Christ Turner going on a Foreign holiday.


- "No money" - Incorrect but we obviously have money issues as noted by our Chairman and honourable accounting genius Chris Turner.
- "Dwindling crowds" - Not sure where you've got that from unless you're referring to our Chairman's comments about not having enough fans regularly turning up throughout last season? I must admit I'm baffled by that.
- "Unhappy manager" - this is true, listen to his interview on player after Lincoln (I think it was), is that a happy bloke to you? Alternatively listen to the "rumours" (they're true, but let's call them rumours to appease the head-in-the-sand brigade) about him speaking frequently in the pub about how the rug has effectively been pulled from underneath him.
- "Roberts on his way out" - that was a few fans' silly overreaction to a mistake he made whilst editing his Twitter profile.
- "Chris Turner going on a foreign holiday" - he apparently went to... where was it again, Dubai? Regarding a business opportunity. No idea what it entails but people haven't been moaning about it from what I've seen on here.

View Postpaulwardle, on 23 July 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

So let's stop the moaning and get behind our Club, it's Manager Chairman and players and start talking positively in what will be a challenging season.


I'd rather look at things realistically (in my personal opinion of course) than mindlessly spout positivity.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 12:58 AM

View Postazul, on 23 July 2014 - 11:03 PM, said:

sycophant you mean :wacko:


not at all and never will be

View PostGoku, on 23 July 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

Yep, such a sensible thing to ask supporters to put £100 of their own money into the club after most of them will have spent £340+ on the increased season ticket prices. To even compare that to what Dave Allen is or arguably should (in some people's eyes, not necessarily mine) be doing. If this is your idea of sensible then no wonder we're worlds apart on where we are at the minute.



that wasn't my idea, do keep up
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 06:44 AM

View Postazul, on 23 July 2014 - 11:03 PM, said:

sycophant you mean :wacko:

good debating style, start calling people with whom you disagree. Keep it up, you could end in the house of commons :blink:
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:07 AM

I wouldn't use the house of commons as any standard to which to judge debating by.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:11 AM

View PostCartman, on 24 July 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

not at all and never will be



that wasn't my idea, do keep up


Your Jonny opposite. i'm playing the devils advocate, attention seeking is getting rather predictable and boring
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 07:15 AM

View PostRodney, on 24 July 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Your Jonny opposite. i'm playing the devils advocate, attention seeking is getting rather predictable and boring

I always thought it was "tommy opposite"
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:36 AM

View PostCartman, on 24 July 2014 - 12:58 AM, said:

that wasn't my idea, do keep up


You said "just one of the more sensible posters on here" insinuating you at least thought he was talking sense.

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On a separate point, -4 for making a sensible, truthful post. I shall continue to do so, so get your reds ready, only 1106 to go ;)
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:43 AM

View PostGoku, on 24 July 2014 - 08:36 AM, said:

You said "just one of the more sensible posters on here" insinuating you at least thought he was talking sense.

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On a separate point, -4 for making a sensible, truthful post. I shall continue to do so, so get your reds ready, only 1106 to go ;)


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Posted 24 July 2014 - 08:53 AM

Or RPL.

Christ, I'm bad at the minute, imagine what he'd be saying about our current situation :blush:
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:08 AM

View Postpaulwardle, on 23 July 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

I cannot believe the negativity of this Forum before we've even kicked a ball in anger.

No money, dwindling crowds, unhappy manager, Roberts on his way out, Christ Turner going on a Foreign holiday.

Every year it's the same old rubbish. Best if everyone goes on their Hols and come back when Season is about to start.

Fact remains that we don't have masses of cash and whether the budget is wrong or not should we expect Allen to keep putting his hand in his pocket?

How many of our 6,000 average crowd would hand over an extra £100 NOW to provide Paul Cook with some extra funds for player budgets? Answer. Not many.

So let's stop the moaning and get behind our Club, it's Manager Chairman and players and start talking positively in what will be a challenging season.


Rubbish - this posts is ridiculous.Its obvious there have been mistakes made in terms of the financial prudence/policy of the club, and that's left the squad is short on numbers - very short on numbers. This has, rightly, raised concerns.

The CEO in place when we first moved was "fired" for mistakes made in the second season, and now we appear to be in a situation where the new CEO has made mistakes, and publicly admitted he had to go to the major shareholder for extra funds just to keep the club going and wages paid. He has basically admitted he is financially incapable of running the club on a day to day basis.

Mistakes were also made in the concerts, certainly the timing of the second event. It might be better to go back to plan "A" and use the agents that set up the Elton John concert and let them handle the risk. Smaller profits for CFC granted, but 0 risk. Lets play it safe and sensible.

But don't worry - go on holiday and then pay an extra £100 a season to make it better.

No one has slated DA for his investment, no has said sack the board. No one has said sack the manager, and no one has said they are not behind the club.

If anything, fans are solidly behind the manager and players, and are expecting a difficult season and simple L1 survival will be the order of the day.



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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:14 AM

some people on here talk as though dave allen gets nothing out of investing 3.5 mil in the club id love to no what the clubs worth now

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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:48 AM

View PostRodney, on 24 July 2014 - 07:11 AM, said:

Your Jonny opposite. i'm playing the devils advocate, attention seeking is getting rather predictable and boring


if I was attention seeking in the RPL mode I would post a hell of a lot more than I do
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 09:56 AM

View Postnewboldsteve, on 24 July 2014 - 09:14 AM, said:

some people on here talk as though dave allen gets nothing out of investing 3.5 mil in the club id love to no what the clubs worth now

So what does he get out of it then? Also what do you think the club is worth now and how have you gone about valuing it?
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:08 AM

View PostGoku, on 23 July 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:

Yep, such a sensible thing to ask supporters to put £100 of their own money into the club after most of them will have spent £340+ on the increased season ticket prices. To even compare that to what Dave Allen is or arguably should (in some people's eyes, not necessarily mine) be doing. If this is your idea of sensible then no wonder we're worlds apart on where we are at the minute.

As for his claims;



- "No money" - Incorrect but we obviously have money issues as noted by our Chairman and honourable accounting genius Chris Turner.
- "Dwindling crowds" - Not sure where you've got that from unless you're referring to our Chairman's comments about not having enough fans regularly turning up throughout last season? I must admit I'm baffled by that.
- "Unhappy manager" - this is true, listen to his interview on player after Lincoln (I think it was), is that a happy bloke to you? Alternatively listen to the "rumours" (they're true, but let's call them rumours to appease the head-in-the-sand brigade) about him speaking frequently in the pub about how the rug has effectively been pulled from underneath him.
- "Roberts on his way out" - that was a few fans' silly overreaction to a mistake he made whilst editing his Twitter profile.
- "Chris Turner going on a foreign holiday" - he apparently went to... where was it again, Dubai? Regarding a business opportunity. No idea what it entails but people haven't been moaning about it from what I've seen on here.



I'd rather look at things realistically (in my personal opinion of course) than mindlessly spout positivity.


I can't imagine why you have run up a truck load of reds for a post that is as sensible as the one you complained about. Like you I'm a realist - sure I get a bit (lot) annoyed and frustrated about what is happening at town. I also get very annoyed when the supporters kop the blame all the time. If the club had adopted a sensible policy the first time we went up then we might still be pulling in bigger crowds, relegation had a massive impact and its no good pointing the finger of blame at Hubbard (much as I'd like to) because surely all the directors should have had a say in the budget that year.
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Posted 24 July 2014 - 10:13 AM

View Posta kick in the balls, on 24 July 2014 - 09:08 AM, said:

Rubbish - this posts is ridiculous.Its obvious there have been mistakes made in terms of the financial prudence/policy of the club, and that's left the squad is short on numbers - very short on numbers. This has, rightly, raised concerns.

The CEO in place when we first moved was "fired" for mistakes made in the second season, and now we appear to be in a situation where the new CEO has made mistakes, and publicly admitted he had to go to the major shareholder for extra funds just to keep the club going and wages paid. He has basically admitted he is financially incapable of running the club on a day to day basis.

Mistakes were also made in the concerts, certainly the timing of the second event. It might be better to go back to plan "A" and use the agents that set up the Elton John concert and let them handle the risk. Smaller profits for CFC granted, but 0 risk. Lets play it safe and sensible.

But don't worry - go on holiday and then pay an extra £100 a season to make it better.

No one has slated DA for his investment, no has said sack the board. No one has said sack the manager, and no one has said they are not behind the club.

If anything, fans are solidly behind the manager and players, and are expecting a difficult season and simple L1 survival will be the order of the day.


Very true, and that really is the problem - we were all hoping we might push on. Now we have been told that rather than Championship in 5 years it has become - the championship might be out of our reach - way to keep your fans happy guys!
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