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Leyton Orient - Sound Familiar?

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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:25 PM

https://www.theguard...cesco-becchetti
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:32 PM

View Postfreelander2, on 23 February 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:


Fast forward 12 months and............
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:33 PM

Thank goodness we have the fit and proper person test in football eh?
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 09:51 PM

View Postfreelander2, on 23 February 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:


At least two of us have emailed David Conn of the same newspaper hoping to tweak his interest in the misdeeds happening at our football club.

It would be nice if he shows an interest in getting in on the ground floor of a developing story rather than reporting on the broken pieces.

Sadly this ground floor to outsiders has been two or three years in the making
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:38 PM

Good move. David Conn did a couple of excellent pieces on Haslam which must have turned the pressure up on him and pushed him closer to the exit. Can't do the link as I'm on my phone but they're in that google thing. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he was interested in doing a piece for you.
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:42 PM

View PostTrophy5, on 23 February 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

Good move. David Conn did a couple of excellent pieces on Haslam which must have turned the pressure up on him and pushed him closer to the exit. Can't do the link as I'm on my phone but they're in that google thing. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he was interested in doing a piece for you.


It wouldn't be the first time. He might even have been a CFSS founder member.
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 10:43 PM

View PostTrophy5, on 23 February 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

Good move. David Conn did a couple of excellent pieces on Haslam which must have turned the pressure up on him and pushed him closer to the exit. Can't do the link as I'm on my phone but they're in that google thing. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he was interested in doing a piece for you.

He did a major piece on Darren Brown, so I'd imagine he'd be keen to keep his eye on Chesterfields progress after those sordid events.
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Posted 23 February 2017 - 11:12 PM

He tweeted me a couple of times back in December around the time Allen resigned so it is definitely on his radar
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 12:10 AM

View Postazul, on 23 February 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

At least two of us have emailed David Conn of the same newspaper hoping to tweak his interest in the misdeeds happening at our football club.

I understand certain national newspapers have already been in touch with our press officer trying to get a 'scoop' on both our current plight and the latest on the car crash over the road.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 12:40 AM

View PostMr Mercury, on 23 February 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

He did a major piece on Darren Brown, so I'd imagine he'd be keen to keep his eye on Chesterfields progress after those sordid events.

He did many major pieces on us from the post Darren Brown era right up to our move from Saltergate.

He worked for the Independent back in those days, so he clearly has integrity.

He obviously knows Tooley very well so that could be a help. He was our only friend in the media back then, perhaps he could be again.

This post has been edited by azul: 24 February 2017 - 12:54 AM

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 01:10 AM

Just some of his articles on us

http://www.independe...val-139043.html

http://www.independe...lub-563425.html

https://www.theguard...28/chesterfield

https://www.theguard...tion-league-one


I'm sure there are others, more detailed and nearer year zero (2001)

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:44 AM

An alarmingly similar situation. Although I don't believe our chairman gets involved on a daily basis with on field issues.

He tends to leave the running of the club to his friends, and there lies the problem.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:25 AM

It is a similar situation to ours, and it is a different situation in that Leyton Orient was sold to a 'wealthy overseas (Italian) businessman who promised the previous owner, Barry Hearn, he would invest in the club and take it onto better things. But too many poor decisions were made from day one.
http://www.standard....-a-9989672.html

One Hearn quote stands out
“The football business is morally and economically defunct and fundamentally flawed. I couldn’t wait to leave.”

Reading through that article makes you realise our club had probably stumbled on Hearn's maxim of signing young, hungry players on not too much, yet went the gung ho route of signing more expensive and older players (under Saunders) who had no appetite or enthusiasm for a League One scrap.

And yet Hearn himself admits losing millions from his investment in Orient.

What it all does show, is that it is easy enough to lose money in football, without adding lax controls, dodgy associations with development schools and poor player investment.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 09:38 AM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 24 February 2017 - 08:25 AM, said:

It is a similar situation to ours, and it is a different situation in that Leyton Orient was sold to a 'wealthy overseas (Italian) businessman who promised the previous owner, Barry Hearn, he would invest in the club and take it onto better things. But too many poor decisions were made from day one.
http://www.standard....-a-9989672.html

One Hearn quote stands out
“The football business is morally and economically defunct and fundamentally flawed. I couldn’t wait to leave.”

Reading through that article makes you realise our club had probably stumbled on Hearn's maxim of signing young, hungry players on not too much, yet went the gung ho route of signing more expensive and older players (under Saunders) who had no appetite or enthusiasm for a League One scrap.

And yet Hearn himself admits losing millions from his investment in Orient.

What it all does show, is that it is easy enough to lose money in football, without adding lax controls, dodgy associations with development schools and poor player investment.

Hearn may have lost millions but our problem is our owner wants all his money back and then some.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 12:43 PM

View Postfreelander2, on 23 February 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:



Blimey - to paraphrase an old Neil Diamond lyric: 'Well except for the names and a few other changes, if you talk about us, the story's the same one'!
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 05:36 PM

View PostBowzer spirey, on 24 February 2017 - 09:38 AM, said:

Hearn may have lost millions but our problem is our owner wants all his money back and then some.

Barry Hearn certainly seemed to have a much better handle on what he was originally trying to do, compared to our incumbents.. There again he is a Chartered Accountant.

Mind, he couldn't control the path his successor took, even though Hearn saw him as far more wealthy than himself.
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 08:27 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 24 February 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

Barry Hearn certainly seemed to have a much better handle on what he was originally trying to do, compared to our incumbents..

I bet he didn't tell lies every time his lips moved
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 10:49 PM

View Post60s 70s Spireite, on 24 February 2017 - 05:36 PM, said:

Barry Hearn certainly seemed to have a much better handle on what he was originally trying to do, compared to our incumbents.. There again he is a Chartered Accountant.

Mind, he couldn't control the path his successor took, even though Hearn saw him as far more wealthy than himself.

wasn't hearn one of the front runners trying to get us kicked out of the league back in 2001?
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Posted 24 February 2017 - 11:12 PM

View Postazul, on 23 February 2017 - 09:51 PM, said:

At least two of us have emailed David Conn of the same newspaper hoping to tweak his interest in the misdeeds happening at our football club.

It would be nice if he shows an interest in getting in on the ground floor of a developing story rather than reporting on the broken pieces.

Sadly this ground floor to outsiders has been two or three years in the making


Conn was a good ally to my club (Pompey) in reporting some of the very grubby stuff around our problems but I'm sure he would acknowledge that much of what he reported was linked to intelligence from a small group of supporters around the murky dealings of some of our owners and their associates.

I've probably said this before on a previous visit, but I wish you only the best in sorting your situation out.
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/39126425

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