[TheSpireite1866]

Feel like this topic needs a serious discussion. I personally don’t think there is much wrong with the current set up of singers in the Kop as showed saturday which was a great atmosphere…however there is only 200 people max stood up there most weeks. I feel everyone moving down to W7 including the drum could really add something extra special to matchdays right next to the away section..especially when big followings come to town.

You only have to look at teams like Lincoln and Hartlepool who has completely changed their matchday atmospheres. As good as the Kop can be at times there is a lot of people dotted around the ground at home games who stand and sing during away games,W7 would give everyone who wants to sing the option to go and crowd down that end. I personally am all for this idea,I think we could make the technique a fortress and intimidating place to come and visit just like yesterday.

Opinions?

[DIFH]

Nah

[Fit as a Nelson]

No problem with more of an atmosphere being created in W7 but nah not the drum for me, leave that in the Kop and try and suck the ball into the net.

[CFC91]

Don't think W7 needs the drum for an atmosphere given what it's been like in there for the bigger games this season, but definitely think another group in W7 alongside the Kop would help the noise in the ground for sure.

It's the shame the club aren't proactively working with fans on things like this, alot of clubs engage fans groups and give them platforms to create an atmosphere and actively encourage it, ours less so.

[TheSpireite1866]

I wonder how likely the introduction of safe standing would cost for just the kop? Another idea I think isn’t a bad shout.

[CFC91]

TheSpireite1866, on 16 May 2022 - 07:32 PM, said:

I wonder how likely the introduction of safe standing would cost for just the kop? Another idea I think isn’t a bad shout.

It's the future, i've stood on it at Chelsea, Wolves and Liverpool this season and it really makes a difference. It's been slow to take off but will be the norm at a lot of grounds and new builds in the next 10 years or so.

Again - unlikely we'd be at the forefront of any of this but i'd like us to be.

[Search & Destroy]

Everyone who wants to stand just goes to the back of the Kop atm

I’d say there’s at least 2 people for every seat, more for big games

CFC91, on 16 May 2022 - 07:33 PM, said:

It's the future, i've stood on it at Chelsea, Wolves and Liverpool this season and it really makes a difference. It's been slow to take off but will be the norm at a lot of grounds and new builds in the next 10 years or so.

Again - unlikely we'd be at the forefront of any of this but i'd like us to be.

We’ll more likely be at the forefront of introducing quiet, sensory seating

[JonB]

TheSpireite1866, on 16 May 2022 - 07:32 PM, said:

I wonder how likely the introduction of safe standing would cost for just the kop? Another idea I think isn’t a bad shout.

Completely rebuilt stand as the current structure was never designed for the different stresses standing and the barriers needs.

[Goku]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 16 May 2022 - 07:44 PM, said:

Everyone who wants to stand just goes to the back of the Kop atm

I’d say there’s at least 2 people for every seat, more for big games





We’ll more likely be at the forefront of introducing quiet, sensory seating

Hope so. Hate it when it’s loud.

[Mr Mercury]

JonB, on 16 May 2022 - 07:51 PM, said:

Completely rebuilt stand as the current structure was never designed for the different stresses standing and the barriers needs.

I thought the design wasn’t for a complete standing area. safe standing doesn’t increase the capacity , it just gives folk the option to stand rather than sit in their designated space.

[Search & Destroy]

Goku, on 16 May 2022 - 07:52 PM, said:

Hope so. Hate it when it’s loud.

I’m thinking of moving to W7, that peado chant to the visiting keeper makes me want to cry

[mr. smith]

James Rowe is dynamite, on 16 May 2022 - 08:10 PM, said:

I’m thinking of moving to W FY7, that peado chant to the visiting keeper makes me want to cry

This post has been edited by mr. smith: 16 May 2022 - 08:15 PM

[FORZA AZZURRI]

TheSpireite1866, on 16 May 2022 - 07:24 PM, said:

Feel like this topic needs a serious discussion. I personally don’t think there is much wrong with the current set up of singers in the Kop as showed saturday which was a great atmosphere…however there is only 200 people max stood up there most weeks. I feel everyone moving down to W7 including the drum could really add something extra special to matchdays right next to the away section..especially when big followings come to town.

You only have to look at teams like Lincoln and Hartlepool who has completely changed their matchday atmospheres. As good as the Kop can be at times there is a lot of people dotted around the ground at home games who stand and sing during away games,W7 would give everyone who wants to sing the option to go and crowd down that end. I personally am all for this idea,I think we could make the technique a fortress and intimidating place to come and visit just like yesterday.

Opinions?

Agree 100%
majority of our fans sit all game which is fine but let the singers be all together to create a better atmosphere and stand up,
All the big clubs that have been here all stand to a man

[Walton Spireite]

W7 is the way forward. Get as close as possible to the away fans.

[Misnomer]

Mr Mercury, on 16 May 2022 - 07:54 PM, said:

I thought the design wasn’t for a complete standing area. safe standing doesn’t increase the capacity , it just gives folk the option to stand rather than sit in their designated space.

We could fill in the corners 👀🙄

[Search & Destroy]

FORZA AZZURRI, on 16 May 2022 - 08:19 PM, said:

Agree 100%
majority of our fans sit all game which is fine but let the singers be all together to create a better atmosphere and stand up,
All the big clubs that have been here all stand to a man

Well we do when away, it’s normal

[DIFH]

TheSpireite1866, on 16 May 2022 - 07:32 PM, said:

I wonder how likely the introduction of safe standing would cost for just the kop? Another idea I think isn’t a bad shout.

Foundations not condusive

[JonB]

Mr Mercury, on 16 May 2022 - 07:54 PM, said:

I thought the design wasn’t for a complete standing area. safe standing doesn’t increase the capacity , it just gives folk the option to stand rather than sit in their designated space.

Still need the higher barriers though and the design of the stand doesn’t work for those I thought it’s been said in the past. Not enough strength in the precast steps I suspect for the barriers to take the weight of people on them. Whether that can be sorted without knocking it down and starting again I don’t know.

[NEBlue]

I personally think the idea of W7 is very good. Hopefully the club could advertise the blocks use as the vocal section so it would encourage people wanting to contribute to the atmosphere to move there. Really feel that the to and throw with away fans can perk the fans up and with the kop being the opposite end that doesn't have as big an impact.

However, I do feel there are some problems with regard to this working and going through,

First would be that the price of a ticket in the west stand is higher

second is the proximity of the media to W7, however they could be moved.

Final is that the prawn sandwich brigade of the west stand will likely not want the move.

JonB, on 16 May 2022 - 08:36 PM, said:

Still need the higher barriers though and the design of the stand doesn’t work for those I thought it’s been said in the past. Not enough strength in the precast steps I suspect for the barriers to take the weight of people on them. Whether that can be sorted without knocking it down and starting again I don’t know.

I would be surprised if that was true. Shrewsbury have added safe standing at their ground and that is virtually identical to the technique

[Westbars Spireite]

Forget the drum, but otherwise fine.