[Waller is my hero]

Paul Cook aside......our previous managers were all part of the 'old boys network'......something we need to avoid.........in my opinion

[bifocart]

The Gimp, on 08 January 2017 - 09:38 PM, said:

Edinburgh.
Worked his way up from non league, knows the lower divisions and non league and currently out of work. If we are to look at signing non league and premier released starlets he ticks all the boxes.
That's who I would go for.

Hadnt thought of him, but yes, good idea...could be the right point in his career too. My big concern is how the club sells itself to someone who has other choices, we must look really rocky from the outside.

[Spire-Power]

Cook didn't win owt at Accy he just showed potential that was realised here when he was well funded. Same hasn't happened at Portsmouth yet. But I digress. If we should be looking at someone further down the league food chain then the Lincoln manager stands out.

[jack bauer]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

Yes, Danny Cowley at Lincoln, Paul Cox at Barrow are the sort we should be talking to and should be able to compete for. Both are in the middle of promotion campaigns though and both at pretty well-run clubs with a (proportionately) decent budget. Neil Aspin at Gateshead is another. I suspect Hasselbank might see us as a step too far down. Stuart Gray might fancy it, (doesnt seem to exactly fighting off any better offers), but would his recent history with Wednesday tar him as Dee Dah Mafia in the eyes of some Town fans?

I suspect that any experienced League manager who is On The Up as opposed to Treading Water / In Decline would look at our season and its accompanying backstage ructions and think very very carefully before saying no.

I reckon our best hope lies with chatting up relatively young National League types who are looking for a stepping stone to a 2nd Tier club and can put up with the kind of Upper Management that is currently in place at Town. Chances are though it'll be one of usual old lower league lags and we'll be having this conversation again in 8 months.

is paul cox the guy who had Mansfield?

[Spire-Power]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:16 PM, said:

Yes, Danny Cowley at Lincoln, Paul Cox at Barrow are the sort we should be talking to and should be able to compete for. Both are in the middle of promotion campaigns though and both at pretty well-run clubs with a (proportionately) decent budget. Neil Aspin at Gateshead is another. I suspect Hasselbank might see us as a step too far down. Stuart Gray might fancy it, (doesnt seem to exactly fighting off any better offers), but would his recent history with Wednesday tar him as Dee Dah Mafia in the eyes of some Town fans?

I suspect that any experienced League manager who is On The Up as opposed to Treading Water / In Decline would look at our season and its accompanying backstage ructions and think very very carefully before saying no.

I reckon our best hope lies with chatting up relatively young National League types who are looking for a stepping stone to a 2nd Tier club and can put up with the kind of Upper Management that is currently in place at Town. Chances are though it'll be one of usual old lower league lags and we'll be having this conversation again in 8 months.

Hope you were joking re Paul Cox the Mansfield hoof ball specialist!

[bifocart]

jack bauer, on 08 January 2017 - 10:21 PM, said:

is paul cox the guy who had Mansfield?

Yep. Won the National League / Conference with them. Went to Torquay who chuffed him about over wages, doing very well at Barrow.

[jack bauer]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Yep. Won the National League / Conference with them. Went to Torquay who chuffed him about over wages, doing very well at Barrow.

ok, fair enough, not sure that he's the inspiring appointment we're waiting for

[bifocart]

Spire-Power, on 08 January 2017 - 10:23 PM, said:

Hope you were joking re Paul Cox the Mansfield hoof ball specialist!

ha, yes 'fraid so, and from all accounts he is still a bit, er, direct....but he's done wonders with / for Byron Harrison this season and he knows this level of the game without coming on like the jaded old time-servers that will be applying..

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jack bauer, on 08 January 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

ok, fair enough, not sure that he's the inspiring appointment we're waiting for

Well ok..Someone inspiring would be great, someone adequate would be an improvement..
I suppose my wider point is that we should be looking outside the usual circles, avoiding the sentimental options and being realistic about what we have to offer anyone with ambition and a brain.

[jack bauer]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

Well ok..Someone inspiring would be great, someone adequate would be an improvement..
I suppose my wider point is that we should be looking outside the usual circles, avoiding the sentimental options and being realistic about what we have to offer anyone with ambition and a brain.

I can see where you are going but can you imagine the reaction if we appointed Paul Cox?

[bifocart]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:38 PM, said:

Well ok..Someone inspiring would be great, someone adequate would be an improvement..
I suppose my wider point is that we should be looking outside the usual circles, avoiding the sentimental options and being realistic about what we have to offer anyone with ambition and a brain.

sorry for replying to meself..just thought of a case in point...Grimsby took a similar punt on Marcus Bignot, having watched him at work i suppose with Solihull during their own non league days. Not a glamour appointment, bit of a work-in-progress but doing well.

[Siberian Spireite]

Even before joining Town Paul Cook was known for his encyclopaedic scouting knowledge of the north-west. We really benefited as he brought in gems cheaply or on frees and they developed.
Saunders was the opposite and had the recruitment policy of someone who had just picked up Football Manager for the first time in their lives.
I fear that Edinburgh's knowledge of available players will be concentrated down south. Getting players to up sticks and move far is not always easy, and if they travel too far to get to the club then that brings its own problems.
Cook has not succeeded at Pompey as much as many expected, yet, because he has not yet built up his scouting knowledge down south, but I think he must be getting there.

[bifocart]

jack bauer, on 08 January 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

I can see where you are going but can you imagine the reaction if we appointed Paul Cox?

Well yes, but its not like he's Roy Lynk or Silver Birch or summat. If we can never sign anyone who's ever trotted out for the Slags it limits us a bit.. as was mentioned here a few days ago, we'd never have had Paul Holland. Or, er, Bill Curry.

[jack bauer]

bifocart, on 08 January 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

Well yes, but its not like he's Roy Lynk or Silver Birch or summat. If we can never sign anyone who's ever trotted out for the Slags it limits us a bit.. as was mentioned here a few days ago, we'd never have had Paul Holland. Or, er, Bill Curry.

don't get me wrong I've no problem bringing people across from north notts, we've had our fair share of decent transfers from them but I just don't see paul cox as the man to get us all interested.

[Toddhopper.]

Stuart Gray? Please no.

[Trigger]

Paul cox was the manager that played long ball over clucas. People do remember this right?

[NOFX]

Paul cox no thanks

[Mr Mercury]

jack bauer, on 08 January 2017 - 10:28 PM, said:

ok, fair enough, not sure that he's the inspiring appointment we're waiting for

Any manager who leaves Sam Clucas on the bench to either make a point or because he doesn't suit his system wants broiling in oil before appointing here!

[firedodger]

good god there are some horrors on those bookies lists, it's almost like a who's who of people i never want managing the team - ince, curle, jones, moore, adkins, jackett, mowbray, carver even B****Y Saunders again.

I don't find the list very inspiring to be honest, cowley is quite interesting, and i always liked chris powell and les Ferdinand. the oddschecker site seems to suggest that mark cooper is a popular bet.

[smiffy]

Prawn Sandwich, on 08 January 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Chris Turner

If he got the job and got us relegated,this might just be a way of getting rid!😉