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Posted 27 April 2018 - 05:49 PM

Following on from the recent thread by CFC91

There has been talk on and off for more than a year about having a Supporters Group, behind which hopefully the good folk who have a genuine affection and affinity for this Club could rally around.

For reasons which are irrelevant, this idea has not to date materialised. Nevertheless, as the fall out from the relegation of the Club begins to fully register, many on this forum and elsewhere have made it clear that the formation of such a group is now what they want. Do not get me wrong this is not the same situation that faced the Club and the supporters back in 2001. The goalposts are a million miles removed.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the current ownership of the Club and there have been both, it remains the fact that we, the current fan base, owe it to the founders and forebears of this Club, dating right back to its birth, to at least come together to help ensure its survival. I seriously doubt from within that group that any fairy Godmother will appear with enough cash to buy the Club and instil the kind of confidence back in the supporter base overnight that we would all wish for. I may be proved wrong.

The Club is and has been allegedly up for sale. Swedes, Chinese and other consortiums have been banded around for nearly a year. There may be other offers on the table now, only time will tell and I suspect we will know for sure in the next few weeks but irrespective of what happens short term there appears to be an appetite for some kind of collective supporters organisation to belong to, whose ultimate aim is to ensure the Club survives, prospers, remains at the heart of the Town and the wider community and eventually returns to the Football league.

What form any new group takes is hard to say. What its aims are is something else entirely. The old CFSS was made up of SIFA members, official Supporters Club members and other likeminded individuals who have a place in the hearts for this Club. I do not see this as being about politics, pressure groups and people on some kind of ego trip. I played a very, very minor role in helping the original CFSS for a few years. Many others did enormous amounts willingly and voluntarily to save the Club in its darkest hour, you know who they are and we should remember with fondness and gratitude what they did. John Croot, Phil Tooley, Ian Yeowart to name but a few.

Back then one of the Society's aims was ownership of shares and ultimately the Club. That happened bizarrely within days of its formation at the Winding Wheel in March 2001 but I suspect won't happen again. What the new group might offer is opinion, supporter involvement, volunteering and skills which the Club will need in the years ahead. It may be able to act as a conduit or an honest broker between the current ownership and a potential new buyer. There will be someone out there we, as a group might just help to find them.

I have been speaking to Dalekpete and others in recent days. There is a possibility the old CFSS could be revived, we await clarification, or alternatively we just form another new body for the Fans to rally around. That decision lies down the line, what we will do, if you the supporters want it, is arrange a public meeting in the next few weeks to gauge support and feelings as to where we go with this idea.

There has been a lot of pledges of involvement and support in the last week or two from members of Bob's Board and others and I thank everyone for their responses. We are trying to sort a venue and date and once we have I will be back on here and across social media to let everyone know the details. After that it will be up to each one of us to turn up and decide if this idea has any legs and what its aims are.

For the record I have spoken to a senior official at the Club today and made it clear that if they get wind of this movement that it is not a hostile act and should not be considered as such. Of course how they choose to see it is up to them but I have tried to bear an olive branch at this stage.

I don't think there is any more to add at this point once I have more details of venues, dates etc you will know. Thanks
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 06:01 PM

Thanks for the update
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 07:44 PM

Excellent news
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:05 PM

View PostDazspire, on 27 April 2018 - 05:49 PM, said:

Following on from the recent thread by CFC91

There has been talk on and off for more than a year about having a Supporters Group, behind which hopefully the good folk who have a genuine affection and affinity for this Club could rally around.

For reasons which are irrelevant, this idea has not to date materialised. Nevertheless, as the fall out from the relegation of the Club begins to fully register, many on this forum and elsewhere have made it clear that the formation of such a group is now what they want. Do not get me wrong this is not the same situation that faced the Club and the supporters back in 2001. The goalposts are a million miles removed.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the current ownership of the Club and there have been both, it remains the fact that we, the current fan base, owe it to the founders and forebears of this Club, dating right back to its birth, to at least come together to help ensure its survival. I seriously doubt from within that group that any fairy Godmother will appear with enough cash to buy the Club and instil the kind of confidence back in the supporter base overnight that we would all wish for. I may be proved wrong.

The Club is and has been allegedly up for sale. Swedes, Chinese and other consortiums have been banded around for nearly a year. There may be other offers on the table now, only time will tell and I suspect we will know for sure in the next few weeks but irrespective of what happens short term there appears to be an appetite for some kind of collective supporters organisation to belong to, whose ultimate aim is to ensure the Club survives, prospers, remains at the heart of the Town and the wider community and eventually returns to the Football league.

What form any new group takes is hard to say. What its aims are is something else entirely. The old CFSS was made up of SIFA members, official Supporters Club members and other likeminded individuals who have a place in the hearts for this Club. I do not see this as being about politics, pressure groups and people on some kind of ego trip. I played a very, very minor role in helping the original CFSS for a few years. Many others did enormous amounts willingly and voluntarily to save the Club in its darkest hour, you know who they are and we should remember with fondness and gratitude what they did. John Croot, Phil Tooley, Ian Yeowart to name but a few.

Back then one of the Society's aims was ownership of shares and ultimately the Club. That happened bizarrely within days of its formation at the Winding Wheel in March 2001 but I suspect won't happen again. What the new group might offer is opinion, supporter involvement, volunteering and skills which the Club will need in the years ahead. It may be able to act as a conduit or an honest broker between the current ownership and a potential new buyer. There will be someone out there we, as a group might just help to find them.

I have been speaking to Dalekpete and others in recent days. There is a possibility the old CFSS could be revived, we await clarification, or alternatively we just form another new body for the Fans to rally around. That decision lies down the line, what we will do, if you the supporters want it, is arrange a public meeting in the next few weeks to gauge support and feelings as to where we go with this idea.

There has been a lot of pledges of involvement and support in the last week or two from members of Bob's Board and others and I thank everyone for their responses. We are trying to sort a venue and date and once we have I will be back on here and across social media to let everyone know the details. After that it will be up to each one of us to turn up and decide if this idea has any legs and what its aims are.

For the record I have spoken to a senior official at the Club today and made it clear that if they get wind of this movement that it is not a hostile act and should not be considered as such. Of course how they choose to see it is up to them but I have tried to bear an olive branch at this stage.

I don't think there is any more to add at this point once I have more details of venues, dates etc you will know. Thanks

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:37 PM

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Following on from the recent thread by CFC91

There has been talk on and off for more than a year about having a Supporters Group, behind which hopefully the good folk who have a genuine affection and affinity for this Club could rally around.

For reasons which are irrelevant, this idea has not to date materialised. Nevertheless, as the fall out from the relegation of the Club begins to fully register, many on this forum and elsewhere have made it clear that the formation of such a group is now what they want. Do not get me wrong this is not the same situation that faced the Club and the supporters back in 2001. The goalposts are a million miles removed.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the current ownership of the Club and there have been both, it remains the fact that we, the current fan base, owe it to the founders and forebears of this Club, dating right back to its birth, to at least come together to help ensure its survival. I seriously doubt from within that group that any fairy Godmother will appear with enough cash to buy the Club and instil the kind of confidence back in the supporter base overnight that we would all wish for. I may be proved wrong.

The Club is and has been allegedly up for sale. Swedes, Chinese and other consortiums have been banded around for nearly a year. There may be other offers on the table now, only time will tell and I suspect we will know for sure in the next few weeks but irrespective of what happens short term there appears to be an appetite for some kind of collective supporters organisation to belong to, whose ultimate aim is to ensure the Club survives, prospers, remains at the heart of the Town and the wider community and eventually returns to the Football league.

What form any new group takes is hard to say. What its aims are is something else entirely. The old CFSS was made up of SIFA members, official Supporters Club members and other likeminded individuals who have a place in the hearts for this Club. I do not see this as being about politics, pressure groups and people on some kind of ego trip. I played a very, very minor role in helping the original CFSS for a few years. Many others did enormous amounts willingly and voluntarily to save the Club in its darkest hour, you know who they are and we should remember with fondness and gratitude what they did. John Croot, Phil Tooley, Ian Yeowart to name but a few.

Back then one of the Society's aims was ownership of shares and ultimately the Club. That happened bizarrely within days of its formation at the Winding Wheel in March 2001 but I suspect won't happen again. What the new group might offer is opinion, supporter involvement, volunteering and skills which the Club will need in the years ahead. It may be able to act as a conduit or an honest broker between the current ownership and a potential new buyer. There will be someone out there we, as a group might just help to find them.

I have been speaking to Dalekpete and others in recent days. There is a possibility the old CFSS could be revived, we await clarification, or alternatively we just form another new body for the Fans to rally around. That decision lies down the line, what we will do, if you the supporters want it, is arrange a public meeting in the next few weeks to gauge support and feelings as to where we go with this idea.

There has been a lot of pledges of involvement and support in the last week or two from members of Bob's Board and others and I thank everyone for their responses. We are trying to sort a venue and date and once we have I will be back on here and across social media to let everyone know the details. After that it will be up to each one of us to turn up and decide if this idea has any legs and what its aims are.

For the record I have spoken to a senior official at the Club today and made it clear that if they get wind of this movement that it is not a hostile act and should not be considered as such. Of course how they choose to see it is up to them but I have tried to bear an olive branch at this stage.

I don't think there is any more to add at this point once I have more details of venues, dates etc you will know. Thanks


My opinion, for what it’s worth.

A fans group SHOULD be set up but to pick up the pieces, rather than take over.

The numbers involved are just too much for fan intervention (maybe deliberate?). We’re not asking fans to fund £186,000 a year for 3 years here ( or whatever it was) we’re talking massiv3 amounts of debts that are unsustainable by a non league club.


Even if D A said he would write off his loans, ask £1 per share and cover the mortgage and other director debentures it’s still a massive commitment that a fans takeover probably wouldn’t be able to meet, or would really struggle to meet, so I don’t see where the the PR exercise from the assay snake in this sense is leading.....apart from..... there is no takeover, so back to SQ1.


One of the so called Brierly consortium recently sold a number of business and residential rental properties- is that a coincidence?was it a release of equity for other investments or a release of responsibility due to loss of rental income? Is cash injection of 400k enough to even run CFC fo4 a year?

No, a fans group/consortium is there to pick up the piece. They don’t have the fiancé or clout to influence the boardroom all they can do is wait i the wings, ready to step in and start afresh. That is where the energ6 and focus needs to be

Unless there is evidence, real3vidence that stands up in court to convict, if that’s there, then balls out we go for them
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Posted 27 April 2018 - 08:52 PM

View PostI don’t like mondays, on 27 April 2018 - 08:37 PM, said:

My opinion, for what it’s worth.

A fans group SHOULD be set up but to pick up the pieces, rather than take over.

The numbers involved are just too much for fan intervention (maybe deliberate?). We’re not asking fans to fund £186,000 a year for 3 years here ( or whatever it was) we’re talking massiv3 amounts of debts that are unsustainable by a non league club.


Even if D A said he would write off his loans, ask £1 per share and cover the mortgage and other director debentures it’s still a massive commitment that a fans takeover probably wouldn’t be able to meet, or would really struggle to meet, so I don’t see where the the PR exercise from the assay snake in this sense is leading.....apart from..... there is no takeover, so back to SQ1.


One of the so called Brierly consortium recently sold a number of business and residential rental properties- is that a coincidence?was it a release of equity for other investments or a release of responsibility due to loss of rental income? Is cash injection of 400k enough to even run CFC fo4 a year?

No, a fans group/consortium is there to pick up the piece. They don’t have the fiancé or clout to influence the boardroom all they can do is wait i the wings, ready to step in and start afresh. That is where the energ6 and focus needs to be

Unless there is evidence, real3vidence that stands up in court to convict, if that’s there, then balls out we go for them



Don't disagree about the ordinary fans buying and running the Club being unsustainable this is not the same scenario as in 2001. Pick up the pieces maybe try to influence and where appropriate support and challenge yes, hence why we need to be ready for anything that might occur COYB's
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 11:16 AM

Anything happening?
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 12:24 PM

View Postpeakblue, on 02 May 2018 - 11:16 AM, said:

Anything happening?


There will be an announcement as soon as we have a date and venue confirmed...bear with
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 02:34 PM

View PostDazspire, on 02 May 2018 - 12:24 PM, said:

There will be an announcement as soon as we have a date and venue confirmed...bear with

Ok.thanks
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Posted 02 May 2018 - 03:01 PM

Sorry just seen this, been trying to keep off here as much as possible but this is great news. Keep me updated
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Posted 12 May 2018 - 12:10 PM

Any news?
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 07:36 AM

Hope to have a venue and dates pinned down this week in view of events unfolding everyday it seems it could be just in time the natives are restless. Keep the faith
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 08:25 AM

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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:24 AM

View PostDazspire, on 13 May 2018 - 07:36 AM, said:

Hope to have a venue and dates pinned down this week in view of events unfolding everyday it seems it could be just in time the natives are restless. Keep the faith

A supporters club needs forming and it does not need the clubs permission to do so. Where it goes what it does should be up to the people who are fully behind it. However time is running out on the Club
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:35 AM

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A supporters club needs forming and it does not need the clubs permission to do so. Where it goes what it does should be up to the people who are fully behind it.

That's an important detail. If it is an 'official' supporters club as per the thread title does it need the club's permission? Or perhaps it means simply that it has to be affiliated to an official national supporters' organisation?
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:40 AM

View Postdim view, on 13 May 2018 - 10:35 AM, said:

That's an important detail. If it is an 'official' supporters club as per the thread title does it need the club's permission? Or perhaps it means simply that it has to be affiliated to an official national supporters' organisation?

So can we go unofficial and get associated to a national supporters association ?
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:41 AM

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So can we go unofficial and get associated to a national supporters association ?

no idea.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:44 AM

If you need a venue Brampton Rovers football club will let you have their facility to start it off.
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:45 AM

https://en.m.wikiped...s%27_Federation
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Posted 13 May 2018 - 10:56 AM

View Postdim view, on 13 May 2018 - 10:35 AM, said:

That's an important detail. If it is an 'official' supporters club as per the thread title does it need the club's permission? Or perhaps it means simply that it has to be affiliated to an official national supporters' organisation?

if the club won't give permission then do an independent one. can't let the club get in the way of this, plus could be waiting forever, needs to happen asap, there's an offer of a venue on this thread, now get a date, advertise and go for it.
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