Hypothetical Question, Just Out Of Interest
#1
Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:33 PM
#2
Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:44 PM
We need a keeper who is going to command his box, at the moment Tommy isn't doing it, we have several players who have raised the bar this season Tommy isn't one of them.
#4
Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:50 PM
Sabreman, on 29 September 2014 - 03:44 PM, said:
We need a keeper who is going to command his box, at the moment Tommy isn't doing it, we have several players who have raised the bar this season Tommy isn't one of them.
I think we sometimes underestimate the ability of sportsmen and women who reach the top of their chosen game..for example prior to Carolls performance Saturday I was saying even when he was good he was Shiite ! Silly me eh
#5
Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:57 PM
#6
Posted 29 September 2014 - 03:58 PM
If we could get somebody like Charlie Austin in for Doyle, Carrick in for Morsey it doesn't really make any difference who it is as long as they bring something to the table.
#7
Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:03 PM
I thought Carroll was the best Goalie I've seen up here for a while, really stood out.
Much as I love Tommy, a goalie capable of playing at a higher level would add so much more composure to the defence.
#8
Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:21 PM
Phil V 72, on 29 September 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:
Well I said it before the season started, someone who I know very well & a good friend...who has lots of Premiership experience had his agent approach CFC & wasn't interested...even though he was happy to be second choice & wanted ****** all! Strange!! &, not just because he is a mate, but think he would have been an excellent No 2 (even if he has a dodgy knee)
Phil V 72, on 29 September 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:
I thought Carroll was the best Goalie I've seen up here for a while, really stood out.
Much as I love Tommy, a goalie capable of playing at a higher level would add so much more composure to the defence.
Totally agree
This post has been edited by Waller is my hero: 29 September 2014 - 04:21 PM
#9
Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:22 PM
Phil V 72, on 29 September 2014 - 04:03 PM, said:
I thought Carroll was the best Goalie I've seen up here for a while, really stood out.
Much as I love Tommy, a goalie capable of playing at a higher level would add so much more composure to the defence.
Tommy is just as capable as Carroll of having a stormer. The assessment has to include Carroll's management of the people in front of him. I saw no particular evidence of them being any more or less shambolic than us. Great goalies make life easy for themselves by ruthlessly managing the unit - like Norm used to. The best one I've seen at the Proact is Hamer. I hope Tommy is just a couple of clean sheets away from finding the confidence to push on to the new level.
With the full side back playing, PC will have to do summat if we continue shipping poor goals in otherwise it could ruin a potentially great season.
#10
Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:28 PM
dim view, on 29 September 2014 - 04:22 PM, said:
With the full side back playing, PC will have to do summat if we continue shipping poor goals in otherwise it could ruin a potentially great season.
Once the stability comes back into our defence the better - Over the past few seasons our back four has always been same, same........having so many disruptions at the back hasn't helped...especially after the injury to Hird
#13
Posted 29 September 2014 - 04:53 PM
Westbars Spireite, on 29 September 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:
My thoughts exactly, and I wonder how many other teams have said similar about Tommy Lee when he has been seemingly unbeatable. ?? At this level I think we have got a great keeper, Carroll was brilliant sat. bet he is costing a bob or two.
#14
Posted 29 September 2014 - 05:14 PM
Phil V 72, on 29 September 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:
Brian Clough used to say a top class keeper is worth 10 points a season
#15
Posted 29 September 2014 - 05:20 PM
Phil V 72, on 29 September 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:
Definitely, it wasn't just the saves he made as some were regulation. It was the way he reacted under an intense bombardment.
#17
Posted 29 September 2014 - 06:38 PM
Westbars Spireite, on 29 September 2014 - 04:29 PM, said:
Exactly, as good as he was on Saturday he is playing in the third tier of English football for a reason, it's most likely those games don't happen very often. Carroll is a keeper who has peaked, a while ago.
We were having similar discussions about tony roberts a few seasons ago weren't we?
#18
Posted 29 September 2014 - 06:40 PM
deano-cfc, on 29 September 2014 - 04:53 PM, said:
Tommy didn't have the best of seasons last term either. He's okay for this level and we have a decent enough keeper, but he's certainly not the keeper many think he is. This is Tommy's level and best outside the prem is just nonsense. Glad we've got him? Damn right I am (especially if he can find his best form again), but I'm also very realistic & honest with my assessments.
#19
Posted 29 September 2014 - 06:54 PM
firedodger, on 29 September 2014 - 06:38 PM, said:
We were having similar discussions about tony roberts a few seasons ago weren't we?
Like 52 hours ago
#20
Posted 29 September 2014 - 07:05 PM
longeatonspireite, on 29 September 2014 - 06:54 PM, said:
The test is does he do it week in week out