[Spireite82]

I appreciate it's a difficult job but today's refereeing was awful. I wonder what his refereeing report will say...surely the keeper should have either received a red card or nothing at all...I'm pleased the refereeing didn't cost us a deserved 3 points!

[Hoare (400)]

Spireite82, on 16 August 2014 - 04:06 PM, said:

I appreciate it's a difficult job but today's refereeing was awful. I wonder what his refereeing report will say...surely the keeper should have either received a red card or nothing at all...I'm pleased the refereeing didn't cost us a deserved 3 points!

As someone pointed out last week, the only thing we need to worry about in this division are the officials !



Hoare (400)

[Bankrobber]

Some weird decisions going on. It was the right decision, but it made me laugh how he couldn't wait to give the second pen after cocking up the red that the sub keeper should have had.

[Waller is my hero]

That ref was shocking! How he didn't send the keeper off I don't know!!

[Cartman]

Handball outside the box by a keeper is not an automatic red card

[spireite0312]

Cartman, on 16 August 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Handball outside the box by a keeper is not an automatic red card

It is if it was deliberate and stopping a clear goal scoring opportunity!

[Heavy_Soul]

Cartman, on 16 August 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Handball outside the box by a keeper is not an automatic red card

No. I remember a keeper doing it at saltergate during the carling cup run. Weaver?!?

[Spireite82]

Did Evatt handle the ball? I couldn't see from my seat but it looked close range to me...agree, the ref was desperate to give us a penalty after he realised he should have sent off the goalkeeper! Excellent result though...

[Martyg]

Evatt did hand ball it with 2 hands but he was protecting his face

[Spireite82]

Cartman, on 16 August 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Handball outside the box by a keeper is not an automatic red card

Agreed, but it was a blatant goal scoring opportunity. Could you explain why the ref awarded a yellow card...to me it's either hand ball and no card or a red card for preventing a goal...good win though!

[lindo-spireite]

It wasn't a red

On first viewing

Spireite82, on 16 August 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

Agreed, but it was a blatant goal scoring opportunity. Could you explain why the ref awarded a yellow card...to me it's either hand ball and no card or a red card for preventing a goal...good win though!

Think there was a defender covering

[Forever a Spireite]

Cartman, on 16 August 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Handball outside the box by a keeper is not an automatic red card

What planet are you on! To do what he dis is a sure red card! Were u on the same bus back to town when I had to explain to my 10 year old why some town fans were still slaggin doyle off! Great performance still a few idiots on here!!

[RichThomps1]

Spireite82, on 16 August 2014 - 04:47 PM, said:

Agreed, but it was a blatant goal scoring opportunity. Could you explain why the ref awarded a yellow card...to me it's either hand ball and no card or a red card for preventing a goal...good win though!

The goalkeeper handled it in whilst the ball was in midair with a defender covering and going away from goal. It would have been very difficult to score from that position hence a yellow card.

[Goku]

I thought the ref's overall game was poor but I thought he got most of the big decisions right. Both blatant pens for us. Not sure about their pen, was in the Kop. As for the possible red card, there was a defender alongside Doyle so it depends if he would've got to the ball first or not. My first reaction was yellow but I could be wrong.

[hilly81]

Forever a Spireite, on 16 August 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

What planet are you on! To do what he dis is a sure red card! Were u on the same bus back to town when I had to explain to my 10 year old why some town fans were still slaggin doyle off! Great performance still a few idiots on here!!

Calm down Cupcake!

[Cartman]

Forever a Spireite, on 16 August 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

What planet are you on! To do what he dis is a sure red card! Were u on the same bus back to town when I had to explain to my 10 year old why some town fans were still slaggin doyle off! Great performance still a few idiots on here!!

What planet am I on?

Errrrr.......

Just pointing out something that most appear unaware of, handball outside the box is not an automatic red card, depends on the circumstances

some just think if goalie handballs outside box ref has to give a red

not the case

[Spireite82]

I think the referee knew he had bottled it and made a poor decision...overall one of the worst officials I've seen in a long time (and to be honest, Saltergate and the Proact seems to attract a certain calibre of officiating).

[calvin plummers socks]

Forever a Spireite, on 16 August 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

What planet are you on! To do what he dis is a sure red card! Were u on the same bus back to town when I had to explain to my 10 year old why some town fans were still slaggin doyle off! Great performance still a few idiots on here!!

Handball is never a red card unless a clear goal scoring opportunity is stopped.

Blimey doesn't everyone know this?

How people can watch football without even a basic knowledge of the rules..........

[Spireite82]

Cartman, on 16 August 2014 - 04:58 PM, said:

What planet am I on?

Errrrr.......

Just pointing out something that most appear unaware of, handball outside the box is not an automatic red card, depends on the circumstances

some just think if goalie handballs outside box ref has to give a red

not the case

If the goalkeeper comes rushing out if his box because an attacker is clear and 1:1 and attempts to head the ball, misses the ball and handles it (IMO that us what happened) then it does have to be red card. If it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity, he shouldn't have booked him
In my opinion. Let's be honest, he took an eternity to decide and bottled it...the penalty wasnnt his only poor decision. He also had an immensely long 10 yard stride!

[calvin plummers socks]

Spireite82, on 16 August 2014 - 05:03 PM, said:

If the goalkeeper comes rushing out if his box because an attacker is clear and 1:1 and attempts to head the ball, misses the ball and handles it (IMO that us what happened) then it does have to be red card. If it wasn't a clear goalscoring opportunity, he shouldn't have booked him

Of course he should have booked him.
I suggest you read the laws of the game

I'll make it easy for you:-

Disciplinary sanctions
There are circumstances when a caution for unsporting behaviour is required when a player deliberately handles the ball, e.g. when a player:
• deliberately handles the ball to prevent an opponent gaining possession
• attempts to score a goal by deliberately handling the ball
A player is sent off, however, if he prevents a goal or an obvious goalscoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball. This punishment arises not from the act of the player deliberately handling the ball but from the unacceptable and unfair intervention that prevented a goal being scored.