Eu Exit Vote.
#1
Posted 17 January 2016 - 09:59 AM
#2
Posted 17 January 2016 - 11:52 AM
This post has been edited by lindo-spireite: 17 January 2016 - 11:52 AM
#4
Posted 17 January 2016 - 01:33 PM
lindo-spireite, on 17 January 2016 - 11:52 AM, said:
The political machine will roll into action and we will be scared into staying.
That's what happened in Scotland, the people wanted it but the scare stories prevented it, same will happen here.
We will be bullied, the renegotiation is a complete farce.
If Scotland were to vote again it would be a landslide
#5
Posted 18 January 2016 - 12:21 PM
the renegotiation will break the government if they still don't recognise too much power has been devolved out of Westminter and into Brussels..
Interesting few months ahead
#6
Posted 18 January 2016 - 12:41 PM
They'll scare us shiteless with horror scenarios
#7
Posted 18 January 2016 - 01:04 PM
Search and Destroy, on 18 January 2016 - 12:41 PM, said:
They'll scare us shiteless with horror scenarios
You should know!!!!
#8
Posted 18 January 2016 - 02:50 PM
#10
Posted 21 January 2016 - 02:48 PM
CFC91, on 18 January 2016 - 12:21 PM, said:
the renegotiation will break the government if they still don't recognise too much power has been devolved out of Westminter and into Brussels..
Interesting few months ahead
I don't believe Dhimmi Dave cares about a good deal for one second. All he wants is some helpful headlines to help him win the referendum he never wanted to hold in the first place. What concerns me is that if the 'Out' campaign is able to overcome the EU propaganda and secure us our independence from the EU then the people negotiating our future relationship with whatever's left of it will be those who campaigned for us to stay in.
#11
Posted 21 January 2016 - 02:58 PM
Wooly, on 21 January 2016 - 02:48 PM, said:
David Cameron’s announcement that Muslim women should make sure their English improves, or otherwise risk their right to stay in Britain, had all his now familiar hallmarks: clumsy, disingenuous, riddled with unverifiable assumptions, and ripped apart within 24 hours.
The idea that a married women could be deported because of inadequate English, when we cannot even seem to deport hate preachers and the aiders and abetters of terrorism, will rightly strike most of us as laughable.
#12
Posted 21 January 2016 - 03:45 PM
Wooly said:
I don't believe Dhimmi Dave cares about a good deal for one second. All he wants is some helpful headlines to help him win the referendum he never wanted to hold in the first place. What concerns me is that if the 'Out' campaign is able to overcome the EU propaganda and secure us our independence from the EU then the people negotiating our future relationship with whatever's left of it will be those who campaigned for us to stay in.
It's started already. An economist said that " leaving the EU would sent Britain into the unknown, into a void".
I had laugh when he was answered by a former conservative chancellor of the exchequer " this void is the world. The place we traded with before we joined the EU"
#14
Posted 22 January 2016 - 09:52 AM
A trading group in theory is not a bad idea but the euro as it stands is a pseudo government that no common person really understands, needs or wants.
#15
Posted 22 January 2016 - 06:25 PM
Mr.Spireite, on 22 January 2016 - 09:52 AM, said:
A trading group in theory is not a bad idea but the euro as it stands is a pseudo government that no common person really understands, needs or wants.
Let's have a straw poll
I'm voting OUT
#17
Posted 23 January 2016 - 12:07 AM
mr. smith, on 22 January 2016 - 06:43 PM, said:
It's a no brainer surely?
Got the first bit of stay in propaganda yesterday, weird as the so called renegotiation hasn't taken place yet.
The wording is totally corrupt, referring to saying in Europe as opposed to European Union.
Latest odds 2/5 in and 7/4 out
This post has been edited by Search and Destroy: 23 January 2016 - 12:09 AM
#18
Posted 23 January 2016 - 08:20 AM
CFC91 said:
Not done the Swiss or Norwegians much harm has it?
If we come out does that mean we don't give millions away to other countries instead of our own people
#19
Posted 23 January 2016 - 10:15 AM
spireitewolf, on 23 January 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:
No cos we'll just send more to our former colonies and China!
#21
Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:22 AM
it looks like it will come down to the economy and big business vs immigration
Personally, I think Britain could recover if VW or Nissan or the City of London pulled out, we could recover from have to negotiate our own trade deals.
We could never, ever recover from the destruction of social cohesion that continued, relentless immigration would bring.
Big business, vested interests, the City, they don't care about communities, schools, hospitals and crime ridden streets, they care about share prices that would probably fall with an exit.
#22
Posted 03 February 2016 - 09:32 AM
#23
Posted 03 February 2016 - 11:56 AM
spireitewolf, on 23 January 2016 - 08:20 AM, said:
Should do as at the minute the EU dictates how much we commit to things like foreign aid, which at the minute is astronomical 11.5 billion, I believe!
Not only is this far too much when we have kids living in poverty and far too many homeless people but also there is no flexibility. For example when the floods hit, the government can't suddenly take a few mill out of the Foreign aid budget to support effected areas. What ever they have been told to contribute they have to contribute no matter what. This is why we still give money to India.. which has it's own space programme!!
I'm voting Leave unless Dave comes back with a MASSIVE change in which the EU is run and the way they dictate to member states.