[moondog]

Westbars Spireite, on 03 December 2018 - 10:41 PM, said:

It was suggested that it was Geoff Mitchell.

It wasn't Geoff

Westbars Spireite, on 03 December 2018 - 09:53 PM, said:

Clarke-Harris.

Was before then, we lost out on Clarke Harris because we got gazumped by Coventry

[Westbars Spireite]

I'm sure the Carson/Racing Day business involved him. Never mind

Whoever it was they were an oddball as a poster and seemingly well placed with someone at the club.

This post has been edited by Westbars Spireite: 03 December 2018 - 11:11 PM

[clarevoyant.]

moondog, on 03 December 2018 - 11:01 PM, said:

It wasn't Geoff



Was before then, we lost out on Clarke Harris because we got gazumped by Coventry

Wasn't he at the Proact waiting to sign, but got p....d off when AC didn't turn up, which undermined all the work done by the people to get him there.
I seem to recall an outcry that AC hadn't made himself available for the entire duration of transfer deadline day.
Then again age may be playing tricks.

[moondog]

Westbars Spireite, on 03 December 2018 - 11:07 PM, said:

I'm sure the Carson/Racing Day business involved him. Never mind

Whoever it was they were an oddball as a poster and seemingly well placed with someone at the club.

Sorry you're right just checked

[jack'smyboy]

Humpalumpa, on 14 October 2018 - 07:50 PM, said:

Xerxes, on 11 March 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I was told at the match on saturday that the voting is a sham and they have already ordered the black kit. Not being a cynic I didn't believe it, but I'm not so sure now having seen the designs. I think the voting should be scrutinised by the Electoral Reform Society to ensure that everything is above board - after all we don't want to see the club's good name dragged through the mud again after the nepotism scandal re the club's IT contracts.

Back to topic, the green one is my choice, looks very good and distinctive; would sell hundreds. Don't like the other two and certainly wouldn't buy either



Mr Mercury, on 22 March 2017 - 12:03 PM, said:
That's the one, so remembering back all this behind the scenes stuff would appear to have been going on for longer than we think I suppose!

Few threads covering it all here in 2013 :-
http://www.thecfss.c...=1
http://www.thecfss.c...=1
http://www.thecfss.c...=1

Our new associate director dropped them in it over that bit of nonsense, unless he considers a month in advance to be 'very early' (screenshot of the club article about the vote in the replies)

My link

Vote opened 20th March 2013, new kit launched by 23rd April 2013 (going by the date on the article and the first comment)

My link

This post has been edited by jack'smyboy: 04 December 2018 - 12:14 AM

[Sammy Spireite]

jack, on 04 December 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:

Our new associate director dropped them in it over that bit of nonsense, unless he considers a month in advance to be 'very early' (screenshot of the club article about the vote in the replies)

My link

Vote opened 20th March 2013, new kit launched by 23rd April 2013 (going by the date on the article and the first comment)

My link

As an aside to the point/valitity of the vote, IIRC, the image people 'voted' on wasn't allowed under FL rules either as it had one black sleeve and one white, mean the deisgn had to be changed anyway?

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view said:

1543876116[/url]' post='1435876']
It's a cracker this int it.
Does anybody want to have a crack at interpreting this evidence?

This and the sally swain dismissal/redundancy will make an excellent question at the AGM.

[dim view]

DEATH, on 04 December 2018 - 09:49 AM, said:

This and the sally swain dismissal/redundancy will make an excellent question at the AGM.

I realise this is a bit anal for some, but the FA panel said that somebody was lying but they didn't care who as it did not affect the charge. However, taken with Turner's official statement the previous year that the Development School and CFC were independent, it's bleedin obvious to me who ordered who to stash invoices. That official statement was made just before a year end so it follows that Turner knew full well he had hoodwinked auditors. At least 2 directors knew Turner's statement was untrue.

[nattyfred]

Blue5, on 03 December 2018 - 05:11 PM, said:

Updated as of 02/12/18 (but I still need to include the notes from the FA hearing covering the player payments). If I have missed some topics please remind me.

Mar 2010
Ashley Carson appointed to the Board of Directors.

Dec 2011
Carol Wilby leaves the club.

Chris Turner appointed as the club's Chief Executive.

Apr 2012
It is confirmed that Barrie Hubbard will leave the club in June.

Oct 2012
Discharged bankrupt Liam Sutcliffe and Rotherham United's developments centres link up with the club.

June 2013
£438K loss reported

Nov 2013
Alan Walters leaves his position as the club's Finance Director.

June 2014
£1.06M loss despite promotion, JPT Wembley final, Tom Jones Concert & Party at the Proact which contributed to £6.3M turnover!

Aug 2014
Discharged bankrupt Kevin Fitzgerald appointed as Head of Sales & Marketing.

Nov 2014
Courted Abdul Latif Alnassar for the best part of 12 months on the understanding that he would invest / facilitate investment.

Dec 2014
Club ordered to replay FA Cup tie over ineligible player (George Margreitter).

Chris Turner's interview following the FA hearing: https://audioboom.co...ec-chris-turner

May 2015
Dean Saunders appointed as manager.

June 2015
Derisory £85K profit reported despite selling Cooper to Leeds, Doyle to Cardiff, Roberts to Portsmouth & appearing in the play off semi finals.

Nov 2015
Dean Saunders dismissed after just 6 months in the job.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Notts County on the 4th November in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Rotherham United on the 10th November in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Dec 2015
Danny Wilson appointed as manager.

Liam Graham plays in game against Glossop North End on the 8th December, Derbyshire Senior Cup 3rd round. Appeared as Tom Jarrald.

Jan 2016
Start of the bad press relating to CFC Football Development School.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Notts County on the 5th January in the Final Third Development League. Appeared as Jake Beesley.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Gateshead on the 26th January in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Feb 2016
Dennis Bingham - International Scouting Consultant.

Fans' forum representative, Spireitenag confirms that the club has been visited by a TV crew and debt collector. http://www.thecfss.c...opic=56975&st=0

Fans' forum representative, Spireitenag confirm that he attended a meeting with Liam Sutcliffe and Chris Turner who advised him that the main whistleblower of CFC Football Development School was nothing more than a troublemaker (among other things).

March 2016
Concerns are raised about the validity of Dennis Bingham's Royal Pearl International's sponsorship in relation to whether or not the company exists and what part (if any) it played in the signing of Liam Graham. Further concerns raised in respect to financial considerations and breaches of FA regulations.

Ex employees of CFC Football Development School Ltd raise concerns about alleged misuse of company funds.

May 2016
Chris Turner issues statement claiming that CFC Football Development School Ltd are self funded and have no financial connection to the club. https://www.chesterf...sues-statement/

Derbyshire Times banned from the ground. https://www.derbyshi...times-1-7936130

Peter Clarke formerly of A&S Leisure is appointed as the club's new Catering & Events Manager.

June 2016
Derisory £42K profit reported despite selling Darikwa to Burnley, Clucas to Hull and Morsy to Wigan (transfer income totalled £2M).

The Derbyshire Times report that the Ernie's family are devastated by club's silence over charity game total. https://www.derbyshi...total-1-7981068

Fans step in to pay the bill after Ernie Moss stewarding row. https://www.derbyshi...g-row-1-7982760

Ched Evans returns to football and joins the club on a one year contract.

July 2016
CCJ awarded against CFC 2001 Ltd for £6,327.

Fake raffle winner.

First legal charge on the ground transferred from the council to A&S Leisure.

Long serving groundsman, Antony Haywood leaves the club.

Oct 2016
Gala ball at Chatsworth House to celebrate the club's 150th anniversary. Many supporters felt the event catered for a minority.

Nov 2016
Resignations of David Allen, Philip Taylor, Chris Breeze, David Jones & Alan Goodall from the Board of Directors.

This is Money report that Sheffield's Assay Office are assisting detectives investigating potential money laundering by Stunt & Co. https://www.thisismo...ring-probe.html

Jan 2017
Supporters meet with Ashley Carson and inform him of a number of allegations (financial irregularities mainly) made by employees of CFC Football Development School.

Demotion of Chris Turner from CEO to Director of Football.

Danny Wilson dismissed after just 12 months in the job.

Appointment of Gary Caldwell.

Feb 2017
Bailiff seen visiting the club and premises of CFC Football Development School.

Mar 2017
CCJ awarded against CFC 2001 Ltd for £1,962.

CFC Football Development School Ltd placed into voluntary liquidation.

Chris Turner made redundant.

Former Assay Office employee appointed new kitman. http://spireitegazet...-announced.html

Apr 2017
Liquidator of CFC Football Development School issues an update which confirm a number of allegations made by former employees (see Companies house website for the report)

Discharged bankrupt Guy Branston appointed as the club's Head of Recruitment.

Hired thug threatens supporter.

May 2017
Relegated.

June 2017
Sheffield United do a U-turn over the loan of David Brooks after it had been reported that Brooks was set to join the club on loan as part of the Ched Evans transfer to United.

Ashley Carson denies sending abusive Twitter message. https://www.derbyshi...ssage-1-8616407

Aug 2017
Conference and Banqueting Manager, Peter Clarke is made redundant after less than 15 months in the job.

Football Association confirm the three year suspension of Dennis Bingham as sanctioned by Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio.

Sept 2017
Gary Caldwell sacked after less than 8 months in the job.

Guy Branston leaves the club after less than 6 months in his role.

Jack Lester appointed as manager.

Tommy Wright currently being investigated for corruption appointed assistant manager.

Nov 2017
Reported overseas interest in acquiring the club. https://www.derbyshi...party-1-8866545

Dec 2017
Sally Swain charged by the Football Association relating to the Paul McGinn transfer.

Derbyshre Times report that Booth & Co, the liquidator involved with CFC Football Development School Ltd have issued a claim against the club believed to be a six figure sum.

Feb 2018
Ashley Carson sends friendly warning to club's former mascot. https://www.derbyshi...rning-1-9023318

Mar 2018
Derbyshire Time report Chesterfield owner Dave Allen says he did not accept an offer to buy the club before Christmas. Despite club directors Ashley Carson and John Croot, and agent Lucas Cominelli, who represented the interested party, all saying a deal had been agreed. https://www.derbyshi...ments-1-9048637

Club confirm that long-term servant, Sally Swain has been made redundant. https://www.derbyshi...icial-1-9080391

Apr 2018
Jack Lester leaves the club after less than 7 months.

May 2018
FA charges relating to a third party paying the wages of Myles Wright & Jake Orrell.

Relegated to non league football.

That well known club official, Dave Rocket harasses the club's historian which ultimately lead to his resignation.

Ashley Carson confirms he will cooperate fully with any enquiry after his son boasted on social media that he had won money from a bet on the next Spireites manager. https://www.derbyshi...tment-1-9169363

Club unveil new home and away kit design. Away kit being black, a colour which can't be worn in the national league.

July 2018
Club fined £12,500 plus costs by the FA for breach of financial regulations. https://www.derbyshi...rules-1-9264859

Aug 2018
Ashley Carson / Jack Lester's Cast - Perhaps best described as the Fake Sheikh episode.

Oct 2018
Discharged bankrupt and former Kids 'n' Cancer employee, Andrea Hooley returns to the club.
https://www.chesterf...marketing-role/

Nov 2018
The club is fined £5,000 by the Football Association relating to matters concerning Joe Rowley's contract.
https://www.peakfm.c...-fc-fined-5000/

Sponsor, G F Tomlinson confirm that they will not be renewing their sponsorship and cite off-field issues as the reason.
https://www.derbyshi...ement-1-9466693

Local businessman, Steve Coe appointed as an Associate Director.
https://www.chesterf...ctor-appointed/

This post has been edited by nattyfred: 04 December 2018 - 10:38 AM

[Zytok]

my god, that list is terrifying!!

[dazcarrlegend]

That is staggering. They make Gerald ratner look like Steve jobs

[Wooden Spoon]

dim view said:

1543917684[/url]"]1543917684[/url]' post='[url="tel:[url="tel:1435921"]1435921[/url]"]1435921[/url]']I realise this is a bit anal for some, but the FA panel said that somebody was lying but they didn't care who as it did not affect the charge. However, taken with Turner's official statement the previous year that the Development School and CFC were independent, it's bleedin obvious to me who ordered who to stash invoices. That official statement was made just before a year end so it follows that Turner knew full well he had hoodwinked auditors. At least 2 directors knew Turner's statement was untrue.

Time to hold Croots feet to the fire then, regarding his knowledge, and the statement made by the FA.


Is it really possible, that out of the turner/Carson duo that Turner was the brains of the outfit? Ye God's that's scary prospect.

This post has been edited by DEATH: 04 December 2018 - 06:58 PM

[Blue5]

A bit of a rework on some subjects and a point for consideration, should average home attendances be included for each year?

Mar 2010
Ashley Carson appointed to the Board of Directors.

Dec 2011
Carol Wilby leaves the club.

Chris Turner appointed as the club's Chief Executive.

Apr 2012
It is confirmed that Barrie Hubbard will leave the club in June.

Oct 2012
Discharged bankrupt Liam Sutcliffe and Rotherham United's developments centres link up with the club.

Nov 2013
Alan Walters leaves his position as the club's Finance Director.

Jan 2014
Club announce a £438K loss for year ended 30/06/13.

Aug 2014
Discharged bankrupt Kevin Fitzgerald appointed as Head of Sales & Marketing.

Oct 2014
Club announce £1.06M loss for year ended 30/06/14 despite promotion, JPT Wembley final, Tom Jones Concert & Party at the Proact which contributed to £6.3M turnover!

Nov 2014
Courted Abdul Latif Alnassar for the best part of 12 months on the understanding that he would invest / facilitate investment.

Dec 2014
Club ordered to replay FA Cup tie over ineligible player (George Margreitter).

Chris Turner's interview following the FA hearing: https://audioboom.co...ec-chris-turner

May 2015
Dean Saunders appointed as manager.

Oct 2015
Club announce £85K profit for year ended 30/06/15 despite selling Cooper to Leeds, Doyle to Cardiff, Roberts to Portsmouth & appearing in the play off semi finals.

Nov 2015
Dean Saunders dismissed after just 6 months in the job.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Notts County on the 4th November in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Rotherham United on the 10th November in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Dec 2015
Danny Wilson appointed as manager.

Liam Graham plays in game against Glossop North End on the 8th December, Derbyshire Senior Cup 3rd round. Appeared as Tom Jarrald.

Jan 2016
Start of the bad press relating to CFC Football Development School.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Notts County on the 5th January in the Final Third Development League. Appeared as Jake Beesley.

Liam Graham plays for the reserves against Gateshead on the 26th January in the Final Third Development League Cup. Appeared as Jake Hudson.

Feb 2016
Dennis Bingham - International Scouting Consultant.

Fans' forum representative, Spireitenag confirms that the club has been visited by a TV crew and debt collector. http://www.thecfss.c...opic=56975&st=0

Fans' forum representative, Spireitenag confirm that he attended a meeting with Liam Sutcliffe and Chris Turner who advised him that the main whistleblower of CFC Football Development School was nothing more than a troublemaker (among other things).

March 2016
Concerns are raised about the validity of Dennis Bingham's Royal Pearl International's sponsorship in relation to whether or not the company exists and what part (if any) it played in the signing of Liam Graham. Further concerns raised in respect to financial considerations and breaches of FA regulations.

Ex employees of CFC Football Development School Ltd raise concerns about alleged misuse of company funds.

May 2016
Chris Turner issues statement claiming that CFC Football Development School Ltd are self funded and have no financial connection to the club. https://www.chesterf...sues-statement/

Derbyshire Times banned from the ground. https://www.derbyshi...times-1-7936130

Peter Clarke formerly of A&S Leisure is appointed as the club's new Catering & Events Manager.

June 2016
The Derbyshire Times report that the Ernie's family are devastated by club's silence over charity game total. https://www.derbyshi...total-1-7981068

Fans step in to pay the bill after Ernie Moss stewarding row. https://www.derbyshi...g-row-1-7982760

Ched Evans returns to football and joins the club on a one year contract.

July 2016
CCJ awarded against CFC 2001 Ltd for £6,327.

Fake raffle winner.

First legal charge on the ground transferred from the council to A&S Leisure.

Long serving groundsman, Antony Haywood leaves the club.

Oct 2016
Club announce £42K profit for year ended 30/06/16 despite selling Darikwa to Burnley, Clucas to Hull and Morsy to Wigan (transfer income totalled £2M).

Gala ball at Chatsworth House to celebrate the club's 150th anniversary. Many supporters felt the event catered for a minority.

Nov 2016
Resignations of David Allen, Philip Taylor, Chris Breeze, David Jones & Alan Goodall from the Board of Directors.

This is Money report that Sheffield's Assay Office are assisting detectives investigating potential money laundering by Stunt & Co. https://www.thisismo...ring-probe.html

Jan 2017
Supporters meet with Ashley Carson and inform him of a number of allegations (financial irregularities mainly) made by employees of CFC Football Development School.

Demotion of Chris Turner from CEO to Director of Football.

Danny Wilson dismissed after just 12 months in the job.

Appointment of Gary Caldwell.

Feb 2017
Bailiff seen visiting the club and premises of CFC Football Development School.

Mar 2017
CCJ awarded against CFC 2001 Ltd for £1,962.

CFC Football Development School Ltd placed into voluntary liquidation.

Chris Turner made redundant.

Former Assay Office employee appointed new kitman. http://spireitegazet...-announced.html

Apr 2017
Liquidator of CFC Football Development School issues an update which confirm a number of allegations made by former employees (see Companies House website for the report)

Discharged bankrupt Guy Branston appointed as the club's Head of Recruitment.

Hired thug threatens supporter.

May 2017
Relegated.

June 2017
Sheffield United do a U-turn over the loan of David Brooks after it had been reported that Brooks was set to join the club on loan as part of the Ched Evans transfer to United.

Ashley Carson denies sending abusive Twitter message. https://www.derbyshi...ssage-1-8616407

Aug 2017
Conference and Banqueting Manager, Peter Clarke is made redundant after less than 15 months in the job.

Football Association confirm the three year suspension of Dennis Bingham as sanctioned by Federazione Italiana Giuoco Calcio.

Sept 2017
Gary Caldwell sacked after less than 8 months in the job.

Guy Branston leaves the club after less than 6 months in his role.

Jack Lester appointed as manager.

Tommy Wright currently being investigated for corruption appointed assistant manager.

Moondog confirms that his request to Ashley Carson for an independent accountant to review the club's accounts covering Chris Turner's employment has been rejected.

Nov 2017
Reported overseas interest in acquiring the club. https://www.derbyshi...party-1-8866545

Dec 2017
Sally Swain charged by the Football Association relating to the Paul McGinn transfer.

Derbyshre Times report that Booth & Co, the liquidator involved with CFC Football Development School Ltd have issued a claim against the club believed to be a six figure sum.

Feb 2018
Club announce a loss of £506,735 for year ended 30/06/17.

Ashley Carson sends friendly warning to club's former mascot. https://www.derbyshi...rning-1-9023318

Mar 2018
Derbyshire Time report Chesterfield owner Dave Allen says he did not accept an offer to buy the club before Christmas. Despite club directors Ashley Carson and John Croot, and agent Lucas Cominelli, who represented the interested party, all saying a deal had been agreed. https://www.derbyshi...ments-1-9048637

Club confirm that long-term servant, Sally Swain has been made redundant. https://www.derbyshi...icial-1-9080391

At the club's AGM, a supporter makes the point to Ashley Carson and the board of directors that he is aware that the club's former finance director and an employee of Shorts Accountancy had raised concerns in October 2013 about the number of payments in the accounts of CFC Football Development School Ltd marked CFC wages where no provision had been made for PAYE/NI.

Apr 2018
Jack Lester leaves the club after less than 7 months.

May 2018
FA charges relating to a third party paying the wages of Myles Wright & Jake Orrell.

Relegated to non league football.

That well known club official, Dave Rocket harasses the club's historian which ultimately lead to his resignation.

Ashley Carson confirms he will cooperate fully with any enquiry after his son boasted on social media that he had won money from a bet on the next Spireites manager. https://www.derbyshi...tment-1-9169363

Club unveil new home and away kit design. Away kit being black, a colour which can't be worn in the national league.

July 2018
Club fined £12,500 plus costs by the FA for breach of financial regulations. https://www.derbyshi...rules-1-9264859

FA hearing document - http://www.thefa.com...-july-2018.ashx

Despite Ashley Carson being made aware of the alleged payments on 25/01/17 to Myles Wright and Jake Orrell and John Croot being made aware of the same on 06/02/17, point 20 of the Football Association's document reads as follows:

"20. That letter expresses support for Ms Swain’s allegation that Mr Turner had instructed her to hide invoices coming from Development School and not give them to the Club’s accounts department to be processed; and that Ms Swain had followed that instruction and had never brought the matter to the board’s or Mr Carson’s attention (until May 2017 when the local press ran a story)."

Aug 2018
Ashley Carson / Jack Lester's Cast - Perhaps best described as the Fake Sheikh episode.

Oct 2018
Discharged bankrupt and former Kids 'n' Cancer employee, Andrea Hooley returns to the club.
https://www.chesterf...marketing-role/

Nov 2018
The club is fined £5,000 by the Football Association relating to matters concerning Joe Rowley's contract.
https://www.peakfm.c...-fc-fined-5000/

Sponsor, G F Tomlinson confirm that they will not be renewing their sponsorship and cite off-field issues as the reason.
https://www.derbyshi...ement-1-9466693

Local businessman, Steve Coe appointed as an Associate Director.
https://www.chesterf...ctor-appointed/

Dec 2018
Paul Goodwin, on behalf of Bridge Inn Away Travel, confirms their plans to organise a peaceful protest at the Basford game against those running the club.

This post has been edited by Blue5: 04 December 2018 - 09:56 PM

[Westbars Spireite]

Why not? Bulks it out (not that it needs it) and it illustrates the impact of Allen's 'work'.

[NOFX]

Did you forget no player of the year after fans take the urine and vote for non scoring striker

[Spire_78]

How about the 2013 away shirt 'vote'

http://www.thecfss.c...26&hl=vote&st=0

[Mr Mercury]

The decsion to give Sheff Utd away ticket holders priority over season ticket holders for the Mansfield away game before rescinding the decision.
Oct/Nov 2017.

[erniemossity]

Wasn’t there also something about Barry Hubbard’s widow having to fight to get some money back out of the club that was rightfully owed?

[Jack Lester's Cast]

Westbars Spireite, on 04 December 2018 - 09:52 PM, said:

Why not? Bulks it out (not that it needs it) and it illustrates the impact of Allen's 'work'.

Could also include the debt increasing over the years.

[Waller is my hero]

WOW! What a role model of a Football club we have become

The club should be ashamed at that list of constant failures