[Mr Mercury]

dim view, on 27 June 2016 - 07:26 AM, said:

Hmmm. You must be fuming with Skinner and Mann, who failed to follow the party line because their constituents want to curb migrants.

The Labour Philosophy is in tatters. It excludes any concept of immigration curbs and yet droves of it's traditional supporters want them. Corbyn is right. These people need a new party to support instead of asking the Executive to change it's philosophy.

Skinner voting out was nothing to do with him knowing his constituents wanted to curb migrants, he thought the EU was a capitalist group and he wanted a socialist Britian.
Regarding the financial apolcolypse, it just hasn't happened. Yes bothe the pound and stock market are down but nowhere near the Armageddon forcast by the remain camp. Indeed it's the other EU economies, namely France and Italy, that are being hit badly, now doesn't that tell a story?

[dim view]

Mr Mercury, on 27 June 2016 - 07:51 AM, said:

Skinner voting out was nothing to do with him knowing his constituents wanted to curb migrants, he thought the EU was a capitalist group and he wanted a socialist Britian.

And there goes another flying pig.

Socialist Britain excludes curbs on immigration.

[Search & Destroy]

http://indy100.indep...rue--bJhqBql0VZ

[frearsghost]

Superb piece by Simon Heffer that encapsulates the thinking behind the result.

http://www.telegraph...n-people-power/

[Misnomer]

frearsghost, on 27 June 2016 - 09:35 AM, said:

Superb piece by Simon Heffer that encapsulates the thinking behind the result.

http://www.telegraph...n-people-power/

No it doesn't. Another bias pompous piece of 'democracy' drivel....rather reflective of your own position.

What the hell does this guy know about real hardship, poverty, perpetual unemployment, living in squalid conditions, being uneducated with no aspiration whatsoever.....nothing, absolutely nothing, that's what.

You think these people understand democracy, or, do you think they have their heads easily turned by UKIP mass immigration posters plastered all over their communities?

The sheer arrogance of people like this Farage-loving, UKIP supporting, far right bellend, Hillsborough tragedy (blaming the fans) moron, EU hating, right wing media columnist, is utterly astounding.

But, ultimately, it just 'encapsulates' you, as a person, Frearsghost; the mere fact that you site this man, this article, as some form of justification for the events that occurred last week, offers an insight into your own thinking and position. You are as condescending, arrogant, pompous, and out of touch as this grammar school, Cambridge educated imbecile. You really haven't got a clue.

And, the leave campaign leaders continue to row back on all of their pre-vote pledges.....

[Search & Destroy]

Misnomer, on 27 June 2016 - 10:31 AM, said:

No it doesn't. Another bias pompous piece of 'democracy' drivel....rather reflective of your own position.

What the hell does this guy know about real hardship, poverty, perpetual unemployment, living in squalid conditions, being uneducated with no aspiration whatsoever.....nothing, absolutely nothing, that's what.

You think these people understand democracy, or, do you think they have their heads easily turned by UKIP mass immigration posters plastered all over their communities?

The sheer arrogance of people like this Farage-loving, UKIP supporting, far right bellend, Hillsborough tragedy (blaming the fans) moron, EU hating, right wing media columnist, is utterly astounding.

But, ultimately, it just 'encapsulates' you, as a person, Frearsghost; the mere fact that you site this man, this article, as some form of justification for the events that occurred last week, offers an insight into your own thinking and position. You are as condescending, arrogant, pompous, and out of touch as this grammar school, Cambridge educated imbecile. You really haven't got a clue.

And, the leave campaign leaders continue to row back on all of their pre-vote pledges.....

When's the budget?

Today or tomorrow?

[The Black Triangle]

Misnomer, on 27 June 2016 - 10:31 AM, said:

No it doesn't. Another bias pompous piece of 'democracy' drivel....rather reflective of your own position.

What the hell does this guy know about real hardship, poverty, perpetual unemployment, living in squalid conditions, being uneducated with no aspiration whatsoever.....nothing, absolutely nothing, that's what.

You think these people understand democracy, or, do you think they have their heads easily turned by UKIP mass immigration posters plastered all over their communities?

The sheer arrogance of people like this Farage-loving, UKIP supporting, far right bellend, Hillsborough tragedy (blaming the fans) moron, EU hating, right wing media columnist, is utterly astounding.

But, ultimately, it just 'encapsulates' you, as a person, Frearsghost; the mere fact that you site this man, this article, as some form of justification for the events that occurred last week, offers an insight into your own thinking and position. You are as condescending, arrogant, pompous, and out of touch as this grammar school, Cambridge educated imbecile. You really haven't got a clue.

And, the leave campaign leaders continue to row back on all of their pre-vote pledges.....

There you go again, branding leave voters far right racists.

[dim view]

The Gimp, on 27 June 2016 - 11:42 AM, said:

There you go again, branding leave voters far right racists.

here's a simple little academic exercise for people....

Let's say Cameron calls an election. Write down what the Conservative and Labour Manifestos should say on the control of immigration. One sentence on each.

[Search & Destroy]

The Gimp, on 27 June 2016 - 11:42 AM, said:

There you go again, branding leave voters far right racists.

Haha, UKIP and Leavers blamed the fans at Hillsboro 👍😀

[Johnnyspireite7]

dim view, on 27 June 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

here's a simple little academic exercise for people....

Let's say Cameron calls an election. Write down what the Conservative and Labour Manifestos should say on the control of immigration. One sentence on each.

They already have......they can't do naff all about it (And never could)

[Misnomer]

The Gimp, on 27 June 2016 - 11:42 AM, said:

There you go again, branding leave voters far right racists.

Hang on......nope, can't see the word racist anywhere in what I wrote. However, as Josh has kindly highlighted, and the the national news...the physical and verbal attacks on 'immigrants' occurring all over the country, is quite an eye opener; obviously not racist, though...reminds me of the Nazis rise to power: who can we blame for the terrible state of our country, hmmmmm yes the Jews (immigrants). Now, who can we indoctrinate and mobilise the most with our hateful and deceitful propaganda (blaming immigrants for the lack of jobs, access to public services and the terrible state of the NHS, not underfunding) in order to get us into power, ah yes, the vast swathes of uneducated, poor and impoverished...as they are the easiest to manipulate.

It does make me laugh how Katie Hopkins can momentarily curtail her hatred of the lower working class and bestow her generous praise on them for showing their bravery in voting to leave; the exact same people she pours scorn on every single week: the chavs, the scum, the uneducated, the vile, the sheep, the lazy, the scroungers.....very amusing.

[Search & Destroy]

Immigration is on balance a good thing although in specific areas where public services are under severe pressure there should be funding made available without delay.

Misnomer, on 27 June 2016 - 12:18 PM, said:

Hang on......nope, can't see the word racist anywhere in what I wrote. However, as Josh has kindly highlighted, and the the national news...the physical and verbal attacks on 'immigrants' occurring all over the country, is quite an eye opener; obviously not racist, though...reminds me of the Nazis rise to power: who can we blame for the terrible state of our country, hmmmmm yes the Jews (immigrants). Now, who can we indoctrinate and mobilise the most with our hateful and deceitful propaganda (blaming immigrants for the lack of jobs, access to public services and the terrible state of the NHS, not underfunding) in order to get us into power, ah yes, the vast swathes of uneducated, poor and impoverished...as they are the easiest to manipulate.

It does make me laugh how Katie Hopkins can momentarily curtail her hatred of the lower working class and bestow her generous praise on them for showing their bravery in voting to leave; the exact same people she pours scorn on every single week: the chavs, the scum, the uneducated, the vile, the sheep, the lazy, the scroungers.....very amusing.

When the budget?

[mr. smith]

Search and Destroy, on 27 June 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

Haha, UKIP and Leavers blamed the fans at Hillsboro 👍😀

youre (probably deliberately) misinterpreting what misnomer put. heffer is well know for his views on Hillsboro

[Misnomer]

Search and Destroy, on 27 June 2016 - 12:12 PM, said:

Haha, UKIP and Leavers blamed the fans at Hillsboro 👍😀

Simon Heffer wrote the article in the Spectator about Liverpool fans being to blame and Liverpool as whole wanting to be seen as victims. Just utterly pathetic how you have tried to twist that, jesus. No wonder you are such an obsequious UKIP loving individual.

[Search & Destroy]

mr. smith, on 27 June 2016 - 12:20 PM, said:

youre (probably deliberately) misinterpreting what misnomer put. heffer is well know for his views on Hillsboro

Misinterpreted

[frearsghost]

Misnomer, on 27 June 2016 - 10:31 AM, said:

No it doesn't. Another bias pompous piece of 'democracy' drivel....rather reflective of your own position.

What the hell does this guy know about real hardship, poverty, perpetual unemployment, living in squalid conditions, being uneducated with no aspiration whatsoever.....nothing, absolutely nothing, that's what.

You think these people understand democracy, or, do you think they have their heads easily turned by UKIP mass immigration posters plastered all over their communities?

The sheer arrogance of people like this Farage-loving, UKIP supporting, far right bellend, Hillsborough tragedy (blaming the fans) moron, EU hating, right wing media columnist, is utterly astounding.

But, ultimately, it just 'encapsulates' you, as a person, Frearsghost; the mere fact that you site this man, this article, as some form of justification for the events that occurred last week, offers an insight into your own thinking and position. You are as condescending, arrogant, pompous, and out of touch as this grammar school, Cambridge educated imbecile. You really haven't got a clue.

And, the leave campaign leaders continue to row back on all of their pre-vote pledges.....

Yes, it is my position exactly. Just about the only thing you've got right. Your personal abuse and intolerant approach to debate means I shall not engage you again.

[Misnomer]

frearsghost, on 27 June 2016 - 12:52 PM, said:

Yes, it is my position exactly. Just about the only thing you've got right. Your personal abuse and intolerant approach to debate means I shall not engage you again.

Pompous, arrogant and condescending...you class that as personal abuse? 😃 ok....