[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

azul, on 28 July 2016 - 10:38 PM, said:

He will back on the radar in a couple of months, we will see what happens then

TBH we will probably get a TV game out of it as the trial gets closer, as media interest grows again, especially if he has scored a few, which will effectively pay his wages for the time he's here

[dalekpete]

Sammy Spireite, on 28 July 2016 - 10:45 PM, said:

Has he served his time?

What was his original sentence, and how long ago was he sentenced?

Genuine question, I know he obviously got out early presumably on good behaviour.

There is no good behaviour, all sentences have a set tariff for custody. For most sentences this is half with the rest on licence. Evans has served the appropriate custodial sentence for the offence he is set to face a re-trial. By convention he cannot be sentenced to further time under these circumstances and so the appeal is only about guilt.

[azul]

calvin plummers socks, on 28 July 2016 - 09:51 PM, said:

What's sad is that the board think that signing him is a good idea- not caring one iota for the feelings of fans.
Some may be vulnerable, maybe victims of rape themselves, maybe fathers of daughters etc.

To think they think a journeyman player with a toxic history and baggage is worth more than such a fee paying fan.

Shows how much the board care about the fans and that in my opinion is a shame because in 20 years time the fan would probably have been there and Evans will hopefully be a very much forgotten mistake.

azul, on 28 July 2016 - 11:07 PM, said:

Journeyman? Laughable, don't want him here myself and he might be sleazy but journeyman was one thing he wasn't. He will do well for us on the pitch and sadly that is why he'll be accepted by most

This post has been edited by azul: 28 July 2016 - 11:10 PM

[oldgoat]

azul, on 28 July 2016 - 06:51 PM, said:

Must admit I haven't heard the song but I guess it'll be one of the likely variants the S&D contingent will favour.

Youtube videos of that being sung at CFC games will not go down well in the court of public opinion (and jurors) if it gets well publicised.

The club should stamp it out ASAP

at the swfc game the song was sung by the idiots in the kop , after hanging my head in my hands i collared a steward and informed them i wish to make a complaint to the head steward , she returned and apologised . asked me if i was a season ticket holder - relevant ? and said he asked for my e mail address so they could reply to me . my e mail address was taken - richard.lindley@nhs.net - in case you are watching and wish to reply ashley . surprise , surprise , no response from the club yet !

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[oldgoat]

calvin plummers socks, on 28 July 2016 - 08:59 PM, said:

AC has said to me that his contract would be terminated immediately

can they do that as he has served his time ?

[azul]

dalekpete, on 28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

There is no good behaviour, all sentences have a set tariff for custody. For most sentences this is half with the rest on licence. Evans has served the appropriate custodial sentence for the offence he is set to face a re-trial. By convention he cannot be sentenced to further time under these circumstances and so the appeal is only about guilt.

Hold on...

He got the minimum sentence for rape (5 years) and he got out on license as you say. If there is aggrevated circumstances he could get a lot more.

This will be a new trial with a new judge, with potentially new evidence. So in theory he could get an 8 year sentence if it is deemed there was aggrevated circumstances this time. In this case he could be put away for another year or more. Looking at what constitutes aggrevated circumstances, one or two may be of interest.

The likelyhood of this is minimal, that is why we signed him because there is a 95% chance that even if found guilty he wouldn't go back to jail. That is why any suggestion that we'd fire him if he was found guilty but released on licence is laughable.

The leadership team knew the situation, a few goals and quick bucks at crimbo

[azul]

oldgoat, on 28 July 2016 - 11:38 PM, said:

can they do that as he has served his time ?

I suppose it depends what clauses were put in his contract.

Seems unlikely they would activate any clause but if the stink was so unbearable, who knows

[calvin plummers socks]

Spire-Power, on 28 July 2016 - 10:20 PM, said:

Exactly. CPS assumes he speaks for the majority when fan views are divided and he may be speaking for a minority. Time to chill bruv

Boll ox do I!
I couldn't give a sh** if you all slaver over him and demand a selfie every game outside the players entrance.
That's your choice and good luck to you.

I don't agree in the same way people don't agree about most things on the forum/any forum so you chill love

dalekpete, on 28 July 2016 - 10:51 PM, said:

There is no good behaviour, all sentences have a set tariff for custody. For most sentences this is half with the rest on licence. Evans has served the appropriate custodial sentence for the offence he is set to face a re-trial. By convention he cannot be sentenced to further time under these circumstances and so the appeal is only about guilt.

If guilty he will be gone though despite him banging on 20 goals by Xmas

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

calvin plummers socks, on 29 July 2016 - 02:34 AM, said:

Boll ox do I!
I couldn't give a sh** if you all slaver over him and demand a selfie every game outside the players entrance.
That's your choice and good luck to you.

I don't agree in the same way people don't agree about most things on the forum/any forum so you chill love



If guilty he will be gone though despite him banging on 20 goals by Xmas

Most of the women I've spoken to regarding Evans think he was wrongly convicted. Some are mothers. Most of the fathers of daughters I've spoken to think the same. All those of that opinion seem to agree he was an idiot, and a bit sleazy; but not a criminal.

And none of that has anything to do with 'slavering' over anyone. It has to do with a desire for a fair and workable system of law.

You keep talking about 'the fans' as though they're mainly on your side of the argument. I don't think they are. So if anyone needs to chill it's probably you. No one begrudges you your opinion, just your tendency to assume you're in the majority and your use of words like 'slavering' to describe people who don't agree with you.

This post has been edited by KevinArnottsGoldenBoot: 29 July 2016 - 12:06 PM

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KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 29 July 2016 - 11:55 AM, said:

Most of the women I've spoken to regarding Evans think he was wrongly convicted. Some are mothers. Most of the fathers of daughters I've spoken to think the same. All those of that opinion seem to agree he was an idiot, and a bit sleazy; but not a criminal.

And none of that has anything to do with 'slavering' over anyone. It has to do with a desire for a fair and workable system of law.

....the fairest and most workable being the Jury System

'The jury is considered as fundamental part of the English legal system, albeit only a minority of the cases is tried by the jury in these days. In a sense it plays a vital role in ensuring that the criminal justice system works for the benefit of the public rather than for the benefit of unjust leaders. It promotes not only a healthy criminal justice system but also a healthy society, where political leaders can not abuse criminal justice system to silence their opponents'

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

dim view, on 29 July 2016 - 02:12 PM, said:

....the fairest and most workable being the Jury System

'The jury is considered as fundamental part of the English legal system, albeit only a minority of the cases is tried by the jury in these days. In a sense it plays a vital role in ensuring that the criminal justice system works for the benefit of the public rather than for the benefit of unjust leaders. It promotes not only a healthy criminal justice system but also a healthy society, where political leaders can not abuse criminal justice system to silence their opponents'

Never criticised the jury system. Not once.

But it is the judges responsibility to explain to the jury how the law works. Being as most people have no idea. It is a dereliction of his duty to not explain the parameters, then to compound that by misdirecting them.

Also the CPS's responsibility not to waste the courts time approving cases for trial which shouldn't be there in the first place because they're pursuing an agenda.

[dim view]

KevinArnottsGoldenBoot, on 29 July 2016 - 02:40 PM, said:

Never criticised the jury system. Not once.

But it is the judges responsibility to explain to the jury how the law works. Being as most people have no idea. It is a dereliction of his duty to not explain the parameters, then to compound that by misdirecting them.

Also the CPS's responsibility not to waste the courts time approving cases for trial which shouldn't be there in the first place because they're pursuing an agenda.

I'm thinking of asking The Bridge Inn to put a bus on.
This has got to be one of he most fascinating legal cases ever.