[spireitenag]

Dema Reborn, on 22 July 2016 - 09:39 PM, said:

lets cut these guys some slack, i have seen tweets aimed at them about what is going on at the club, these guys are the piggies in the middle in all of this, i have done it myself after games when been peeved off but we had these guys at the Speakeasy some time back and they cannot put anything out until they are given the go ahead and they are certainly not guilty with what is happening today......

100% correct Keith.

Nick Johnson basically can only put out what he's told to.

From my experiences of dealing with him over a number or years he's a decent and genuine guy.

[Forever a Spireite]

spireitenag, on 22 July 2016 - 09:43 PM, said:

100% correct Keith.

Nick Johnson basically can only put out what he's told to.

From my experiences of dealing with him over a number or years he's a decent and genuine guy.

Nick Johnson is has been the mouthpiece for the club for too long. It may be a job but surely the Rafflegate came from his department! But can't get rid if hm cause he's busy fire fighting the PPP which apparently is nowt to do with the club. If he was doing his job properly perhaps Fitzgerald wouldn't have done it! It's a mess. Acting CEO Carson needs to sort it out.

[Guest_freelander2_*]

Forever a Spireite, on 22 July 2016 - 11:41 PM, said:

Nick Johnson is has been the mouthpiece for the club for too long. It may be a job but surely the Rafflegate came from his department! But can't get rid if hm cause he's busy fire fighting the PPP which apparently is nowt to do with the club. If he was doing his job properly perhaps Fitzgerald wouldn't have done it! It's a mess. Acting CEO Carson needs to sort it out.

From the outside looking in, I would say that Nick Johnson has found himself in a very difficult position.

Like Nigel has said, I've found Nick to be a decent, straightforward and professional guy. However, I suspect his biggest problem is that not everyone he works with possesses those same traits and he finds himself in a minority.

In terms of things to be concerned about, my advice would be to move on to another subject.

This post has been edited by freelander2: 23 July 2016 - 05:35 AM

[hilly81]

CFC content, both social and website has gone downhill massively. Did you see the open top bus tweet after the Matlock game? Sent my cringe gland into spasm.

[Tall Faces]

As a further example of how the club keeps getting media relations/ PR wrong, I thought it was idiotic to put a photo of the 2016/17 shirt on the website with Evans' name on it. Fans are split on this issue so why not go for the safe option of Evatt or Hird, players universally respected. I don't know who had the final say but a pretty basic wobbly spot would surely have ruled the Evans shirt out. There doesn't seem to be anyone with a shred of common sense at the club or with the correct compass when it comes to these issues, or anything really. Very sad.

[moondog]

Tall Faces, on 23 July 2016 - 07:42 AM, said:

As a further example of how the club keeps getting media relations/ PR wrong, I thought it was idiotic to put a photo of the 2016/17 shirt on the website with Evans' name on it. Fans are split on this issue so why not go for the safe option of Evatt or Hird, players universally respected. I don't know who had the final say but a pretty basic wobbly spot would surely have ruled the Evans shirt out. There doesn't seem to be anyone with a shred of common sense at the club or with the correct compass when it comes to these issues, or anything really. Very sad.

Agreed, just like letting them out in club gear in Budapest, crazy

[Westbars Spireite]

hilly81, on 23 July 2016 - 07:13 AM, said:

CFC content, both social and website has gone downhill massively. Did you see the open top bus tweet after the Matlock game? Sent my cringe gland into spasm.

I thought that was quite funny.

[calvin plummers socks]

moondog, on 23 July 2016 - 08:40 AM, said:

Agreed, just like letting them out in club gear in Budapest, crazy

Have the club banned you Moondog?

It's come to something when the club we all love is run by amateurs who aren't by and large qualified to do their job, and have average players who not up to the job as well.

[Misnomer]

Tall Faces, on 23 July 2016 - 07:42 AM, said:

As a further example of how the club keeps getting media relations/ PR wrong, I thought it was idiotic to put a photo of the 2016/17 shirt on the website with Evans' name on it. Fans are split on this issue so why not go for the safe option of Evatt or Hird, players universally respected. I don't know who had the final say but a pretty basic wobbly spot would surely have ruled the Evans shirt out. There doesn't seem to be anyone with a shred of common sense at the club or with the correct compass when it comes to these issues, or anything really. Very sad.

I find this quite unbelievable. Who the hell sanctions such things?

[JonB]

Westbars Spireite, on 23 July 2016 - 08:43 AM, said:

I thought that was quite funny.

Me as well...just one of a number of tweets the two clubs swapped during the course of the day.

[moondog]

calvin plummers socks, on 23 July 2016 - 10:10 AM, said:

Have the club banned you Moondog?

It's come to something when the club we all love is run by amateurs who aren't by and large qualified to do their job, and have average players who not up to the job as well.

No, I doubt they'd risk pulling a stunt like that

[Forever a Spireite]

moondog, on 23 July 2016 - 05:52 PM, said:

No, I doubt they'd risk pulling a stunt like that

Nothing would surprise me at the minute pal!! U seen this??
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=nUHQf6OeU-Y

[moondog]

Forever a Spireite, on 23 July 2016 - 06:08 PM, said:

Nothing would surprise me at the minute pal!! U seen this??
https://m.youtube.co...h?v=nUHQf6OeU-Y

Saw the original original programme years ago, and have watched this clip, can't see where it assists the debate here, you'll have to point it out.

[Forever a Spireite]

moondog, on 23 July 2016 - 06:17 PM, said:

Saw the original original programme years ago, and have watched this clip, can't see where it assists the debate here, you'll have to point it out.

Turner clueless and out of his depth!! He asks the office lady where the club is going cos she's seen the books. Liquidation she answers. Turner obviously destined for greater things now we seem to be stuck with him.

[moondog]

Forever a Spireite, on 23 July 2016 - 06:26 PM, said:

Turner clueless and out of his depth!! He asks the office lady where the club is going cos she's seen the books. Liquidation she answers. Turner obviously destined for greater things now we seem to be stuck with him.

With you

[For your eyes only]

I guess you should always follow the line of, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
But on this subject I have to say this. The situations that people get themselves into, within Cfc, is because they put themselves into that position.
Yes they are told to do things, but they do have a choice to say no.
If you are strong, moral, and driven by doing the right thing, the right way, you would put your hands up and say 'I'm not doing this'
And yes it is easy for me to say that because I've done it.
I held my hands up and said I'm not being a part of this anymore and walked away.
I walked away with no other job to go to.
Rash and impulsive? Maybe.
The right thing to do? Absolutely.
Myself and many other ex employees at this club, have been slandered, lied about, defamed, stripped bare with inconsistent lies and allegations. Bad allegations too. Ones I'm still thinking about taking further put it that way.

People have, and still are, defending and enabling these so called professional people in charge and I will never understand that.
They are not clear of responsibility. Trust me.

I've not seen, or heard, of anyone in any of the disastrous mistakes being unfolded take responsibility for any of it. Only cowardly point the finger at everyone else. Shoot the messenger not the cause of the problem.
No one has put their hands up and said yep, my fault.
And why? Because they're weak. And afraid.

The tweets aimed at individuals are just frustration being vented. Nothing more. Justified frustration tho might I add.
Our opinions on here differ as we have different perspectives on the club. When you've seen first hand, the thought train of these people, the bare faced disregard, the indifference towards people who are paying customers, you see them for what they are.
So please don't think I'm being unnecessarily harsh. Or biased.
Or a keyboard warrior. This all just in my honest opinion based on many different experiences and actions from those who get dissected on here daily.
As far as media employees, directors, CEO's, and anyone else goes, I do not trust any of them. With good reason.

[Westbars Spireite]

What precisely did you do at the club?

[Jud]

Misnomer, on 23 July 2016 - 10:19 AM, said:

I find this quite unbelievable. Who the hell sanctions such things?

The flip side of looking at it is that it wasn't a careless, ham-fisted move by the PR team, but a fairly callous way of getting exposure. Stick Cheds name on anything and it'll garner attention. There's no such thing as bad press, after all (because if there is, you can just ban the publication that printed it, eh).