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#1 User is online   Mr Mercury 

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 09:20 AM

Obviously the whole of parliament is in complete disarray over how to proceed with Brexit, with a second vote, however wrong that might be now looking increasingly likely. I don't know a single person, either a remainer or leaver who has said they will change how they voted if this happens.
So this thread is just a straw poll to see if anyone has changed their view, not why, or why people should change etc ..just will you!
So..I voted leave last time, wil vote leave if there's a second ballot.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:04 AM

Voted remain, would vote the same way if it came to it again.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:23 AM

Same for me remain
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:28 AM

I voted remain. If we had another referendum (I sincerely hope we don't) I would vote to leave. Tusk's attitude towards the British public turned me. He's a wretch.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:47 AM

I'd vote the same.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 10:53 AM

Voted Remain last time, would vote that way again.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 11:52 AM

Still Leave
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 12:36 PM

Still Leave, reinforced by the anti democratic attitude of the unelected EU officials.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 12:58 PM

I voted leave. I voted based on a bus with a false promise of cash to the NHS. I would now vote remain due to the absolute farce this has become. Basically you’ve got a government using Brexit as a board game to become PM.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 01:53 PM

Was Remain...still would be.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 02:08 PM

View Postash_cfc, on 11 December 2018 - 12:58 PM, said:

I voted leave. I voted based on a bus with a false promise of cash to the NHS. I would now vote remain due to the absolute farce this has become. Basically you’ve got a government using Brexit as a board game to become PM.


With everyone seemingly more entrenched in their views since the vote it's rare to see a change.

Saying that, I voted Remain and I would again. I'm biased in my views but what Remainer would look at absolute ****-show that's going on at the moment and think "yeah, I want a piece of that"?
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 02:09 PM

Looking from afar, and as one who would vote if he could (but can’t because he’s been outside of Blighty too long), it just all seems a massive waste of energy, time and money when there’s so many inherently worthwhile things that require attention. And after it all, we may be back to the start with a hell of a lot more division and ill feeling both inside the UK and within/between us and the EU. Cameron - the ㅜwat. Just to satisfy his hold on power. We elect a government - however ultimately useless - to do a job on our behalf, by those who should be more qualified to know and can dedicate their time to learn the nuances and nitty-gritty while us lot are busy with life and our specialised fields of work, making the country tick. Don’t give the people a direct vote on stuff they don’t know enough about and about which they were told twisted half-truths and blatant lies. Still, maybe the only way out of this is with another bleeding referendum. Two wrongs don’t make a right, though.

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 02:21 PM

Voted leave

Still can’t stand the EU or the liberal elite

There is a good reason to remain in that’s it’s too difficult to get out of

Must be costing an absolute fortune
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 03:36 PM

Who in your opinion are the liberal elite, S+D?
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 03:49 PM

London mainly, but I guess wealthy, urbanites who don’t understand the concerns or difficulties that normal people encounter, people who don’t see “bad” immigration

The nearest they get to an Eastern European is a cheap, pretty au pair or cute girl in a hipster coffee shop

Gina Miller, James O’Obrian, Ashdown, Blair, Lilly Allen, examples of the top of my head.

Ashley Carson, he’d be a liberal elite

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 07:34 PM

I didn’t vote last time. I was looking on the ballot paper for “leave the political union but stay in the economic union”. Until that’s on there I will be an abstainer.

The trouble is, the vote wasn’t really about the EU. It was about the south east getting better off whilst the govt did too little for the provinces. Or maybe it’s because the south east is much more multicultural that it’s just the norm to have movement of people....

Either way, it’s a complete pile of dung. I blame Cameron for not setting up the rules of the game properly (more than two options, decisive majority required, blah blah) and Corbyn for not having a clue what Labour’s stance is. And I blame Farage for being a complete and utter t w * t....
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 07:38 PM

View PostSearch and Destroy, on 11 December 2018 - 03:49 PM, said:

London mainly, but I guess wealthy, urbanites who don’t understand the concerns or difficulties that normal people encounter, people who don’t see “bad” immigration

The nearest they get to an Eastern European is a cheap, pretty au pair or cute girl in a hipster coffee shop

Gina Miller, James O’Obrian, Ashdown, Blair, Lilly Allen, examples of the top of my head.

Ashley Carson, he’d be a liberal elite

“They’ve never had it so good, what’s wrong with them”


London? About a third of London seems to be immigrants, it’s a good job or there would be many companies with not enough staff, your cleaning in your hotel rooms, your service in shops, and lots of others.

And what is bad immigration? Taking jobs that the locals don’t want? I used to work for a food company with sites in Lincolnshire, the local youth didn’t want minimum wage to pack lettuces day in day out but they would come from Eastern Europe and lap it up. Maybe the factory should have gone without staff and closed...then we could have imported it. Paid more benefits, took less in taxes. Good plan.
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 07:55 PM

Thanks for reading the penultimate line guys! 😉
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Posted 11 December 2018 - 08:41 PM

View Postisleaiw1, on 11 December 2018 - 07:38 PM, said:

London? About a third of London seems to be immigrants, it’s a good job or there would be many companies with not enough staff, your cleaning in your hotel rooms, your service in shops, and lots of others.

And what is bad immigration? Taking jobs that the locals don’t want? I used to work for a food company with sites in Lincolnshire, the local youth didn’t want minimum wage to pack lettuces day in day out but they would come from Eastern Europe and lap it up. Maybe the factory should have gone without staff and closed...then we could have imported it. Paid more benefits, took less in taxes. Good plan.



I’m referring to London being the hotbed of the liberal elite

Bad immigration ?

1000’s of unskilled males

Where local, small communities are overrun with no support in terms of local services

Do you think the metropolitan elite in cities care about places like Shirebrook?

Supermarkets should pay for more for those Lettuces and then they could pay people proper wages rather than paying immigrants who are happy to live in overcrowded accommodation paying rents to rich landlords

Big corporations getting cheap veg, rich landlords exploiting poor immigrants, locals without jobs, yeah, great plan

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Posted 11 December 2018 - 08:54 PM

View PostSearch and Destroy, on 11 December 2018 - 08:41 PM, said:

I’m referring to London being the hotbed of the liberal elite

Bad immigration ?

1000’s of unskilled males

Where local, small communities are overrun with no support in terms of local services

Do you think the metropolitan elite in cities care about places like Shirebrook?

Supermarkets should pay for more for those Lettuces and then they could pay people proper wages rather than paying immigrants who are happy to live in overcrowded accommodation paying rents to rich landlords

Big corporations getting cheap veg, rich landlords exploiting poor immigrants, locals without jobs, yeah, great plan



Ah Shirebrook, which received millions in European grants to provide jobs for the local community - but too many would rather have benefits...

If supermarkets pay more shoppers pay more. Then the workers have less to spend so want wage increases - which fuels inflation and we become uncompetitive and we get unemployment too... great policy, worked well in the 70s.

Protectionism and tariffs just drives a reduction in trade which makes most countries poorer. Look at the old USSR.

Anyway taking Mr Ms comments into account this isn’t the place to disagree - so no change from me.

PS rich landlords - have you seen the latest changes to affect landlords - only ones that get rich are the ones that don’t play by the proper rules, and they probably don’t play by the rules on many things...

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