[Wooden Spoon]

CFC91, on 15 November 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

This is the part that still irks me a bit, and yeah i'm as guilty as anybody but if we really think we are in the final stretch of our existence, as seems to be a consensus on this thread, then why do we think, we, as fans, haven't done more? Genuine question and not a pop but seems comments from other fans on social media and other forums suggest we aren't doing enough compared to fans of other clubs being taken to the cleaners by owners.

Genuinely I believe it’s because we all know it won’t make a blind bit of difference to the pensioner- if anything it’s like to make his opinions even more entrenched

[Westbars Spireite]

CFC91, on 15 November 2018 - 10:14 AM, said:

This is the part that still irks me a bit, and yeah i'm as guilty as anybody but if we really think we are in the final stretch of our existence, as seems to be a consensus on this thread, then why do we think, we, as fans, haven't done more? Genuine question and not a pop but seems comments from other fans on social media and other forums suggest we aren't doing enough compared to fans of other clubs being taken to the cleaners by owners.

Each situation is different. Each club with an unpopular owner has its own unique dynamics.

Part of what's going on here, or not going on, is that people suspect that whatever is done it will have zero affect. The owner doesn't go to games. He doesn't care what people think and whatever happens he isn't going to unduly inconvenienced.

The other concern, as I see it at least, is that if protests were made in a way that caused him personal embarrassment or inconvenience (his home or other businesses) he'd simply pull down the shutters as a final FU to all of us.

[Wooden Spoon]

Westbars Spireite, on 15 November 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

Each situation is different. Each club with an unpopular owner has its own unique dynamics.

Part of what's going on here, or not going on, is that people suspect that whatever is done it will have zero affect. The owner doesn't go to games. He doesn't care what people think and whatever happens he isn't going to unduly inconvenienced.

The other concern, as I see it at least, is that if protests were made in a way that caused him personal embarrassment or inconvenience (his home or other businesses) he'd simply pull down the shutters as a final FU to all of us.

Your last sentence could be the work of Nostradamus

[Looker-on]

Westbars Spireite, on 15 November 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

The other concern, as I see it at least, is that if protests were made in a way that caused him personal embarrassment or inconvenience (his home or other businesses) he'd simply pull down the shutters as a final FU to all of us.

Any club for which the business side appears to be failing could be shut down at the owner's command. The people at Charlton, Coventry and clubs like that could have shut the things down as soon as the fans got a bit annoyed. I grant you that DA is not the same animal as other owners but the fact that an owner might shut a club down didn't prevent fans from protesting elsewhere. He may well be more inclined to pull the plug than the others, but for some reason it appears worth more to him as a loss-making vehicle driven by an incompetent than it does as a bare patch of land.

[Bluekent]

Looker-on, on 15 November 2018 - 12:43 PM, said:

Any club for which the business side appears to be failing could be shut down at the owner's command. The people at Charlton, Coventry and clubs like that could have shut the things down as soon as the fans got a bit annoyed. I grant you that DA is not the same animal as other owners but the fact that an owner might shut a club down didn't prevent fans from protesting elsewhere. He may well be more inclined to pull the plug than the others, but for some reason it appears worth more to him as a loss-making vehicle driven by an incompetent than it does as a bare patch of land.

Start with something simple....just print hundreds of copies of that list off and hand them out at a game then either keep it or dispose of it on the nearest bit of grass.....anybody got a printer? 🤪🤣

[CFC91]

Bluekent, on 15 November 2018 - 01:08 PM, said:

Start with something simple....just print hundreds of copies of that list off and hand them out at a game then either keep it or dispose of it on the nearest bit of grass.....anybody got a printer? 🤪🤣

There's a lot on here claiming to be staying away and I certainly don't go as much as I used to but I'd come down for a home game if all of those staying away or those involved in a lot of the hard work in collating that list agreed to get together go around the pubs pre match and distribute copies around the stadium. Those that wanted to go to the game could then go, and those who are staying away can enjoy a pint over the road!

Westbars Spireite, on 15 November 2018 - 10:57 AM, said:

Each situation is different. Each club with an unpopular owner has its own unique dynamics.

Part of what's going on here, or not going on, is that people suspect that whatever is done it will have zero affect. The owner doesn't go to games. He doesn't care what people think and whatever happens he isn't going to unduly inconvenienced.

The other concern, as I see it at least, is that if protests were made in a way that caused him personal embarrassment or inconvenience (his home or other businesses) he'd simply pull down the shutters as a final FU to all of us.

If the general consensus us the shutters will come down anyway, in reality, do the fans have much to lose? It's a case of go down quietly, or go down making abit of fuss I guess.

[Blue5]

moondog, on 14 November 2018 - 07:12 PM, said:

Certainly not, I would have been quizzing her about what she knew about the allegations, as at the least this was a major performance issue. As for Point 20, this confirms he failed to do this.

Have you asked Ashley what he is playing at?

[moondog]

Blue5, on 16 November 2018 - 11:21 AM, said:

Have you asked Ashley what he is playing at?

No

[Blue5]

moondog, on 16 November 2018 - 11:27 AM, said:

No

Has he offered you any explanation at all as to what the f*** has been going off?

[moondog]

Blue5, on 16 November 2018 - 11:40 AM, said:

Has he offered you any explanation at all as to what the f*** has been going off?

No, he only pointed out the error in the report with the wages figure and the club didn't appeal

[Blue5]

moondog, on 16 November 2018 - 11:50 AM, said:

No, he only pointed out the error in the report with the wages figure and the club didn't appeal

I believe there is only one reason for that, the same reason why no action was taken following your meeting on 25/01/17 and the same reason point 20 of the FA's report reads as it does.

Like me, I think you know the reason.

[Wooden Spoon]

Blue5 said:

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I believe there is only one reason for that, the same reason why no action was taken following your meeting on 25/01/17 and the same reason point 20 of the FA's report reads as it does.

Like me, I think you know the reason.

why does the pensioner allow this “you can’t touch me” attitude at great financial cost to himself?

[Westbars Spireite]

Blue5, on 16 November 2018 - 07:58 PM, said:

I believe there is only one reason for that, the same reason why no action was taken following your meeting on 25/01/17 and the same reason point 20 of the FA's report reads as it does.

Like me, I think you know the reason.

Type it out bro.

[Mr Mercury]

Have the game comments re the dhsmbolic running of the club been removed and if so where Cani find them again

[Blue5]

Westbars Spireite, on 16 November 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:

Type it out bro.

I do not believe for one minute that Chris Turner would break wind without telling Ashley beforehand.

[Blue5]

DEATH, on 16 November 2018 - 08:09 PM, said:

why does the pensioner allow this “you can’t touch me” attitude at great financial cost to himself?

Has David been good enough to acknowledge your communication?

[Wooden Spoon]

Blue5 said:

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Has David been good enough to acknowledge your communication?

No.

[Wooden Spoon]

DEATH said:

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No.

I’ll give it another go next week.