[Lincs Spireite]

Well at least MA has got the players trying. Last season they didn't even do that.

Also having his 2 star players out on long term injury is bound to have a detrimental effect.

I am not particularly defending MA but can see the problem he faces. He needs to be told at the QA not to hoofball and make unecessary changes.

[dtp]

martatcross, on 03 November 2018 - 06:35 PM, said:

At the current rate of progress, next year we won't be in this league to try and get out of it.

If we were midtable changing manager wouldn't be an issue at all. The problem for me is Allen doesn't know how to halt the slide

Well, he's halted the run of losses but only managed a sequence of draws and it could be argued a draw is better than a loss.

Against table topping Wrexham we were the better team for long spells and we did play some decent football. We have, also, held our own against other sides nearer the top than the bottom.

Basically, in my opinion, the team is sadly lacking a couple of goal scorers. For all his trickery Hines isn't putting the ball in the net, Denton is never going to be prolific, I'm waiting to see Shaw have a shot, I believe Fortune is leading scorer with four but two are from penalties and he can't get a game, neither Kiwomya nor Reid have looked like bothering the oppositions keeper, whilst Amantchi has a lot to learn.

Tactically, the long throw has done us no favours. Very little is created from it and it makes us look more direct than we often are when the ball is in play.

[Stoptalkingbol]

Blue5, on 03 November 2018 - 06:13 PM, said:

I saw Nicky and Adam Smith in the gym the other morning. I will not say which former TV programme came to my mind!

Supermarket sweep?

[jack bauer]

dtp, on 03 November 2018 - 07:04 PM, said:

Well, he's halted the run of losses but only managed a sequence of draws and it could be argued a draw is better than a loss.

Against table topping Wrexham we were the better team for long spells and we did play some decent football. We have, also, held our own against other sides nearer the top than the bottom.

Basically, in my opinion, the team is sadly lacking a couple of goal scorers. For all his trickery Hines isn't putting the ball in the net, Denton is never going to be prolific, I'm waiting to see Shaw have a shot, I believe Fortune is leading scorer with four but two are from penalties and he can't get a game, neither Kiwomya nor Reid have looked like bothering the oppositions keeper, whilst Amantchi has a lot to learn.

Tactically, the long throw has done us no favours. Very little is created from it and it makes us look more direct than we often are when the ball is in play.

that's a good assessment, we certainly put effort in today but sadly we just do not have quality in our play, zero composure on the ball. their goal had been coming for about half an hour we did well to hang in that long, I found it difficult to watch today but not because of lack of effort just purely through lack of anything that resembled football.

[Lincs Spireite]

Well I think Shaw is well out of his depth, no direct shots at goal is pretty abysmal for a striker, and MA should change him for a better player.

IF that means spending then tell DA to do it. If we get a decent striker then we should do well.

[Mr Mercury]

Bowzer spirey, on 03 November 2018 - 07:25 PM, said:

Well I think Shaw is well out of his depth, no direct shots at goal is pretty abysmal for a striker, and MA should change him for a better player.

IF that means spending then tell DA to do it. If we get a decent striker then we should do well.

I agree re Shaw..sadly lacking at this level.

[azul]

Stockholm Spireite, on 03 November 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

You were there and I wasn't, so I'm happy to defer to your judgement. But for all the "effort" we didn't defend a corner.

For all the talk of effort, running round like busy idiots can also be contrasted with sound positioning and reading a game.

Get things like that right and you can become more economical with movement as an individual or unit. Think back to Phil Robinson, or Morsy and Ryan in tandem.

I wasn't there today either but I have not seen the lack of effort or passion as being the issue in any game I have seen

Mr 'M' was right they lack quality (even at this level) and no analysis of the requisite attributes of a professional footballer will change that fact

[Bobby Darling]

Stockholm Spireite, on 03 November 2018 - 06:56 PM, said:

You were there and I wasn't, so I'm happy to defer to your judgement. But for all the "effort" we didn't defend a corner.

For all the talk of effort, running round like busy idiots can also be contrasted with sound positioning and reading a game.

Get things like that right and you can become more economical with movement as an individual or unit. Think back to Phil Robinson, or Morsy and Ryan in tandem.

Have you any idea what players we have? What are you on about re Robinson Morsy Ryan? We can’t afford them. The effort from the players today was first class and they were gutted at the end. Hence why they received an ovation. We defended several corners and I assume that even a team coached by you may just once have conceded a goal from a corner?
Straight question: do you think that you could manage a Conference team better that Martin Allen?

[azul]

Mr Mercury, on 03 November 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

I agree re Shaw..sadly lacking at this level.

He runs around a lot and is quick when he doesn't have the ball

And yet MA sees something in him

This post has been edited by azul: 03 November 2018 - 07:34 PM

[ELTON 2020]

Bowzer spirey, on 03 November 2018 - 07:25 PM, said:

Well I think Shaw is well out of his depth, no direct shots at goal is pretty abysmal for a striker, and MA should change him for a better player.

IF that means spending then tell DA to do it. If we get a decent striker then we should do well.

Shaw has been a disaster, as has Muggleton, as has Nelson, Reid, ad nauseum. Allen out.

[Mr Mercury]

MacSpire, on 03 November 2018 - 07:39 PM, said:

Shaw has been a disaster, as has Muggleton, as has Nelson, Reid, ad nauseum. Allen out.

Muggleton has been steady, the others I agree with.

[hilly81]

Was always an accident waiting to happen. Dreadful manager who has signed dreadful players. Get rid.

[Stockholm Spireite]

Bobby Darling, on 03 November 2018 - 07:32 PM, said:

Have you any idea what players we have? What are you on about re Robinson Morsy Ryan? We can’t afford them. The effort from the players today was first class and they were gutted at the end. Hence why they received an ovation. We defended several corners and I assume that even a team coached by you may just once have conceded a goal from a corner?
Straight question: do you think that you could manage a Conference team better that Martin Allen?

Calm yourself, and give up the hissy fit.

I never said go out and buy players like Robinson, Morsy or Ryan. I was referring to their intelligence (obviously lost on you) and their positioning on the field.

Geez, perhaps you should go for the fitness coaching job. All your jumping to conclusions, climbing the walls and flying off the handle should be enough for you to get the gig.

[whittman]

We hsve had teams that have been to the Proact this season who have deliberatly wasted time from the first minute

Now we have OUR fans coming on here complaining about us apparantly trying to defend a lead in the latter stages of the match

I wonder if the fans of the teams who have wasted time at the Proact have complained on their fans forums after their teams performances

Dont make me laugh

[hilly81]

Stockholm Spireite, on 03 November 2018 - 08:00 PM, said:

Calm yourself, and give up the hissy fit.

I never said go out and buy players like Robinson, Morsy or Ryan. I was referring to their intelligence (obviously lost on you) and their positioning on the field.

Geez, perhaps you should go for the fitness coaching job. All your jumping to conclusions, climbing the walls and flying off the handle should be enough for you to get the gig.

For the record, I think you would do a better job than Martin Allen, SS.

[Bobby Darling]

Stockholm Spireite, on 03 November 2018 - 08:00 PM, said:

Calm yourself, and give up the hissy fit.

I never said go out and buy players like Robinson, Morsy or Ryan. I was referring to their intelligence (obviously lost on you) and their positioning on the field.

Geez, perhaps you should go for the fitness coaching job. All your jumping to conclusions, climbing the walls and flying off the handle should be enough for you to get the gig.

You’re trying to deflect and are being evasive. What’s the point of talking about players who are above this standard. Answer my question: do you think you would make a successful manager at this level? That’s all I’m asking.

[Stoptalkingbol]

whittman, on 03 November 2018 - 08:03 PM, said:

We hsve had teams that have been to the Proact this season who have deliberatly wasted time from the first minute

Now we have OUR fans coming on here complaining about us apparantly trying to defend a lead in the latter stages of the match

I wonder if the fans of the teams who have wasted time at the Proact have complained on their fans forums after their teams performances

Dont make me laugh

16 dog and duck games and no wins. We deliberately slow the game down from minute one and make it a scrap due to a complete lack of ability. Everyone is rightly complaining, it’s pathetic to watch.

[Spire-Heights]

hilly81, on 03 November 2018 - 08:04 PM, said:

For the record, I think you would do a better job than Martin Allen, SS.

Your dog would.

[h again]

Stoptalkingbol, on 03 November 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:

16 dog and duck games and no wins. We deliberately slow the game down from minute one and make it a scrap due to a complete lack of ability. Everyone is rightly complaining, it’s pathetic to watch.

If only. Try to slow it down in this league and you're flat on your back. The entire league revolves round closing down players as quickly and mob-handed as possible.

[hilly81]

Spire-Heights, on 03 November 2018 - 08:19 PM, said:

Your dog would.

Don’t have a dog mate. Got fish though.