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Posted 04 March 2015 - 12:12 PM

Start of a slippery slope this.

Interesting it says 47 out of 48 voted in favour of this. Who's decision was this to vote in favour for us and what possible benefits would we get?

Do they really think that more people will watch us play Stoke B Team than say Tranmere? Nah.

Once they have got their foot in the door the FA won't think twice and will have justification to start chucking these into the Leagues surely and we all know that will mean the end of the Football League as we know it.

Would really like someone on the Fans Forum to put this question to someone at the club and justify it.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 12:18 PM

They haven't voted in favour of it, they've voted to agree to continue discussions about the possibility of it. Only Wimbledon disagreed.

However, I agree it's a scary thought. I imagine there's a bit of a carrot being dangled somewhere along the line - short term £££ for long term pain would be my guess. Either that or the Prem teams are blackmailing us in the same way they did with the EPPP.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 12:31 PM

Yep there has been no vote on it.
It wouldn't be B teams it would potentially 16 Cat 1 U'21 teams
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:19 PM

How would they continue to enforce current rules about teams not playing weakened sides?
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:29 PM

Because if allowed into JPT it would be the U21 teams
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:35 PM

View PostPhil V 72, on 04 March 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

How would they continue to enforce current rules about teams not playing weakened sides?

Whats to say they will? If we can think that there would be an issue with that rule then i suspect they know they need to amend it somehow.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:39 PM

View PostPhil V 72, on 04 March 2015 - 01:19 PM, said:

How would they continue to enforce current rules about teams not playing weakened sides?

Has anyone consulted the sponsors about this I wonder

I'm sure it was the Johnstone's instance that resulted in the ruling about understrength teams

This article just about sums up all the arguments against

http://www.theguardi...ll-bristol-city

I wonder if we'll get a say?
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:43 PM

This should clear it up- it's not b teams

http://www.daggers.c...ms-2313202.aspx
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 04 March 2015 - 01:43 PM, said:

This should clear it up- it's not b teams

http://www.daggers.c...ms-2313202.aspx


Yeah but... so what? I don't want to see U21 teams playing in it either. In fact I think most of us took "B Teams" to be teams mainly composed of U21 players anyway.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 02:14 PM

View Postazul, on 04 March 2015 - 01:39 PM, said:

Has anyone consulted the sponsors about this I wonder

I'm sure it was the Johnstone's instance that resulted in the ruling about understrength teams

I suspect with all the media fuss that this is going to cause then they wont mind!
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 02:31 PM

They could let the big clubs enter under 21s in the JPT, on the proviso that FL Teams get a fair slice of the megga bucks tv deals.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 03:30 PM

View PostGoku, on 04 March 2015 - 01:49 PM, said:

Yeah but... so what? I don't want to see U21 teams playing in it either. In fact I think most of us took "B Teams" to be teams mainly composed of U21 players anyway.


Neither would I but was just clarifying it was not B teams but the Under 21's (which is a whole different thing)
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 03:41 PM

I thought the whole point of the JPT was to allow teams and fans of the bottom two divisions to have a chance at a great day out at Wembley and a piece of silverware.

Surely if the teams in the championship and premiership want to have a contest for their under 21/b teams there is enough revenue being thrown at those leagues to start one?


What next, premier league u16 teams in the FA Vase?
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 04:19 PM

View Postcalvin plummers socks, on 04 March 2015 - 03:30 PM, said:

Neither would I but was just clarifying it was not B teams but the Under 21's (which is a whole different thing)

Yes, even worse

View PostJonB, on 04 March 2015 - 02:14 PM, said:

I suspect with all the media fuss that this is going to cause then they wont mind!

Bad publicity is good publicity I suppose

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 05:40 PM

read somewhere it was proposed to put them in some kind of round robin winners of each group progress? shocking idea what ever the format. Bet the Sponser will be happy Man utd u21s v Chelsea U21 at Wembley in the final with 5000 there

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Posted 04 March 2015 - 06:59 PM

The Premiership can go f... itself into oblivion. Hopefully before they send the rest of us into the abyss.
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 10:27 PM

So they've catigorised the youth set ups in to groups where all the richest teams get all the best young players then they moan that those young players aren't getting in to the best sides in the top division so they then want to punish the poorer teams AGAIN by swamping the only cup compertition they stand a chance of winning.

Why don't they just put some financial clout behind it, make a sky sports 6 or 7 and run a channel devoted to it, f*** off and leave us alone to enjoy our leagues ect... :angry

This post has been edited by Trigger (not the freak): 04 March 2015 - 10:27 PM

Here we go again!
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Posted 04 March 2015 - 10:41 PM

the development fees need changing, top clubs hoard all the best talent from youth level to U21 in the hope one or two of them may be good enough to play in the premier league

Premier league clubs shouldn't receive development fees for players who have developed on loan at other clubs - the fees should be a protection for smaller clubs having their talent poached by bigger clubs

If a youth player has not played a certain amount of games for his parent club by a certain age they should be allowed to leave for free

If this means the big clubs will have smaller acadamies then so be it, more chance of smaller clubs getting some better players and giving them a game from a young age

Chelsea for example shouldn't be allowed to have the amount of players they do, all on loan in the hope that they will command a big fee or be good enough for them

The current structure harms development in my opinion
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