[dim view]

Looker-on, on 21 January 2019 - 04:07 PM, said:

Helping themselves to charity money that was supposed to be helping children...

'Ashley Carson, a businessman and director of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, and one of the city’s MPs, Clive Betts, were recruited to give the charity respectability – but when they asked for bank statements and financial reports, they were fobbed off.

Once the pair resigned as trustees and directors in 2013, “the amount of money being transferred to the Sodje family increased dramatically”, prosecutor Julian Christopher QC said.'

[isleaiw1]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

'Ashley Carson, a businessman and director of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, and one of the city’s MPs, Clive Betts, were recruited to give the charity respectability – but when they asked for bank statements and financial reports, they were fobbed off.

Once the pair resigned as trustees and directors in 2013, “the amount of money being transferred to the Sodje family increased dramatically”, prosecutor Julian Christopher QC said.'

If I was a director of anything and was "fobbed off" when I asked for financial records of any kind I would stop being a director very quickly....does that not immediately raise concerns???

[Blue5]

isleaiw1, on 21 January 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

If I was a director of anything and was "fobbed off" when I asked for financial records of any kind I would stop being a director very quickly....does that not immediately raise concerns???

Ashley was a director for the best part of four years.

[Looker-on]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

Once the pair resigned as trustees and directors in 2013, “the amount of money being transferred to the Sodje family increased dramatically”, prosecutor Julian Christopher QC said.'

https://www.pulse.ng...aud/d9rem1e.amp

Does this read to anyone else like the writer is making accusations against Messrs Carson and Betts? He appears to have a hilariously firm grip on the wrong end of the stick, as neither of these respectable Sheffield personalities came under any suspicion.

[Westbars Spireite]

Sammy Spireite, on 21 January 2019 - 02:16 PM, said:

https://www.bbc.com/...ngland-46946503

Sodje brothers in the news again

Can you get any lower than that?

[dim view]

Looker-on, on 21 January 2019 - 08:01 PM, said:

https://www.pulse.ng...aud/d9rem1e.amp

Does this read to anyone else like the writer is making accusations against Messrs Carson and Betts? He appears to have a hilariously firm grip on the wrong end of the stick, as neither of these respectable Sheffield personalities came under any suspicion.

'The brothers were found guilty of defrauding the foundation through Ashley Carson, a businessman and director of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, and one of the city’s MPs, Clive Betts.
Once the pair was recruited to give the charity respectability in 2003, they started to siphon money to the Sodje family.'

I suppose it depends on one's interpretation of the word 'siphon'.

[jack'smyboy]

isleaiw1, on 21 January 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

If I was a director of anything and was "fobbed off" when I asked for financial records of any kind I would stop being a director very quickly....does that not immediately raise concerns???

If you have no other interest, then yes.

I've been stupid to enough to hang on in there due to a personal, non-financial, interest. I hope I never have to do it again!

[Westbars Spireite]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

'The brothers were found guilty of defrauding the foundation through Ashley Carson, a businessman and director of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, and one of the city’s MPs, Clive Betts.
Once the pair was recruited to give the charity respectability in 2003, they started to siphon money to the Sodje family.'

I suppose it depends on one's interpretation of the word 'siphon'.

Things must have been grim for Ashley Carson to give it respectability.

[dim view]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

'The brothers were found guilty of defrauding the foundation through Ashley Carson, a businessman and director of Sheffield Wednesday Football Club, and one of the city’s MPs, Clive Betts.
Once the pair was recruited to give the charity respectability in 2003, they started to siphon money to the Sodje family.'

I suppose it depends on one's interpretation of the word 'siphon'.

bump

Just reading that again, it's ambiguous on whether the 'they' refers to Carson and Betts or to the brothers. Perhaps Ashley could clear it up.

[isleaiw1]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

bump

Just reading that again, it's ambiguous on whether the 'they' refers to Carson and Betts or to the brothers. Perhaps Ashley could clear it up.

I am pretty certain they meant the brothers but if you were the sort to throw around libel writs then that might be something that you would want clearing up very clearly and explicitly or a writ may be ensuing...

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 21 January 2019 - 09:48 PM, said:

Things must have been grim for Ashley Carson to give it respectability.

.....and now, the Mail Online reveals that tennant and billionaire Stunt owes Sheffield Assay Office £19.5k in unpaid rent and he's been given 14 days to pay up.
It never rains.....

[Westbars Spireite]

dim view, on 26 January 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

.....and now, the Mail Online reveals that tennant and billionaire Stunt owes Sheffield Assay Office £19.5k in unpaid rent and he's been given 14 days to pay up.
It never rains.....

And that he's taken out a £4m mortgage to raise cash.

[Nivo]

dim view, on 26 January 2019 - 09:05 PM, said:

.....and now, the Mail Online reveals that tennant and billionaire Stunt owes Sheffield Assay Office £19.5k in unpaid rent and he's been given 14 days to pay up.
It never rains.....

Dim View - Every quarter HMRC produce a list of deliberate tax defaulters. A company at the centre of this investigation were mentioned by them recently -

"Fowler Oldfield Ltd neglected to pay £5,959,138 in tax for the period October 2014 to December 2015, and was given a penalty of £3,488,081."

The police investigation lead by Ramona Senior and her team continues.

This post has been edited by Nivo: 27 January 2019 - 08:57 AM

[dim view]

Nivo, on 27 January 2019 - 08:36 AM, said:

Dim View - Every quarter HMRC produce a list of deliberate tax defaulters. A company at the centre of this investigation were mentioned by them recently -

"Fowler Oldfield Ltd neglected to pay £5,959,138 in tax for the period October 2014 to December 2015, and was given a penalty of £3,488,081."

The police investigation lead by Ramona Senior and her team continues.

sorry Nivo, this is over my head. What's it about?

[Blue5]

dim view, on 27 January 2019 - 05:25 PM, said:

sorry Nivo, this is over my head. What's it about?

I am guessing Nivo is referring to:

https://www.dailymai...llion-firm.html

https://www.thisismo...ring-probe.html

[dim view]

Westbars Spireite, on 26 January 2019 - 09:20 PM, said:

And that he's taken out a £4m mortgage to raise cash.

….and now, the Mail reveals that the debt to the Assay Office has been repaid.

For those interested, Bernie Ecclestone is now suing Stunt for even more money. I can't see him being a tenant of the Assay office for much longer. I'd advise Ashley against lending him a bob or two to tide him over if he asks. It would be very risky.

This post has been edited by dim view: 01 February 2019 - 07:02 PM

[Nivo]

dim view, on 21 January 2019 - 10:09 PM, said:

bump

Just reading that again, it's ambiguous on whether the 'they' refers to Carson and Betts or to the brothers. Perhaps Ashley could clear it up.

Sam Sodje asking questions.

http://www.dailyadve...ster-sam-sodje/

[moondog]

Nivo, on 27 April 2019 - 07:13 AM, said:

Sam Sodje asking questions.

http://www.dailyadve...ster-sam-sodje/

Just a heads up that next Tuesday at 9.15pm BBC1 are broadcasting "Britain’s Secret Charity Cheats" which covers the Sodje brothers case. I understand Ashley Carson who gave witness evidence for the prosecution at the Old Bailey features in the programme


https://www.bbc.co.u...rammes/m0005j8t

[Blue5]

moondog, on 22 May 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

Just a heads up that next Tuesday at 9.15pm BBC1 are broadcasting "Britain’s Secret Charity Cheats" which covers the Sodje brothers case. I understand Ashley Carson who gave witness evidence for the prosecution at the Old Bailey features in the programme


https://www.bbc.co.u...rammes/m0005j8t

Did he do the interview from his Aston and under what guise will he feature, Assay Master, Chairman of Chesterfield Football Club or Company Secretary?

Where is Cartman for a game of Ashley Bingo?

[moondog]

Blue5, on 22 May 2019 - 04:43 PM, said:

Did he do the interview from his Aston and under what guise will he feature, Assay Master, Chairman of Chesterfield Football Club or Company Secretary?

Where is Cartman for a game of Ashley Bingo?

As a former trustee of the Charity is of course the serious answer