[firedodger]

Not for me, I think the club have played it right on this occasion, apart from he seemingly remains club captain


I’m afraid I have no faith in this internal disciplinary process and as I said earlier in the thread I feel football has just closed its ranks.
The role of club captain obviously means nothing, it’s an utterly wasted title.

[Blue5]

Valley Blues, on 17 September 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

This thread has probably just about run it’s course now, but I’m still amazed how some folk are not quite grasping the issue here.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that Gerrard started this particular social media dispute ( other than it was born out of the fact that he is grossly overweight for a professional footballer ).

I don’t think anyone is denying that the fan who shot his mouth off, so to speak, was acting like a bit of a tool in that he appeared to be seeking a reaction from Gerrard.

The issue is quite clearly that Gerrard is not a paying punter but an employee of the club. The captain, nonetheless.

His reaction was totally unacceptable and not fitting of a professional sportsman in his position. It is embarrassing for himself, or should be, and is embarrassing for the club.

The club has attempted to bring their paying supporters to task on previous occasions and it’s about time they took responsibility for their own and got their house in order.

Or am I misreading things?

That is a good post, my friend.

The lad raises a good point too, by asking at what point does his mother receive an apology?

[CFC91]

National press now picked it up. Some more glowing publicity

[moondog]

CFC91, on 17 September 2019 - 06:09 PM, said:

National press now picked it up. Some more glowing publicity

That was inevitable once the DT reported it

[moondog]

https://www.mirror.c...d-club-20082049

[dtp]

moondog, on 17 September 2019 - 05:31 PM, said:

Not for me, I think the club have played it right on this occasion, apart from he seemingly remains club captain

I somewhat agree.

It's alright saying the club's not gone far enough but the question has to be asked how far they could go bearing in mind the player's contract and employment law - for instance, if he had been sacked without going through the proper procedures how would that have stood up at any potential costly tribunal meeting?

[moondog]

dtp, on 17 September 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

I somewhat agree.

It's alright saying the club's not gone far enough but the question has to be asked how far they could go bearing in mind the player's contract and employment law - for instance, if he had been sacked without going through the proper procedures how would that have stood up at any potential costly tribunal meeting?

It was never a sacking offence, even if the club could have got away with it, it wouldn't have been right

[Valley Blues]

What have the club done? Other than release a form of apology I would suggest has been scripted by the media department and had very little input from the captain? ( I am only assuming this is the case after having a brief look at the grammar and literacy used by Gerrard in his social media rants.)

I am certainly not advocating the sacking of Gerrard, but I would have thought stripping him of the captaincy would have been an appropriate and proportionate action to take.

[JonB]

Gerrard has been fined according to the DT report about it.

[dim view]

dtp, on 17 September 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

I somewhat agree.

It's alright saying the club's not gone far enough but the question has to be asked how far they could go bearing in mind the player's contract and employment law - for instance, if he had been sacked without going through the proper procedures how would that have stood up at any potential costly tribunal meeting?

I also agree. Any tribunal would surely quickly discover that the procedure had not been applied in the case of another well known transgressor. Sensible decision, but precedent now set.

[firedodger]

It's alright saying the club's not gone far enough but the question has to be asked how far they could go bearing in mind the player's contract and employment law - for instance, if he had been sacked without going through the proper procedures how would that have stood up at any potential costly tribunal meeting?


Contract and employment law should not have been a problem, his history is there for all to see, everybody knew he had the potential to do this. This should have been addressed in his contract giving clear expectations of the club highlighting the expected code of conduct for all players particularly a senior pro and the club captain, there should also have been indications of any possible sanctions for him behaving contrary to his contract.
If you get this right and police / enforce it correctly there is no sensible grounds for a costly tribunal, you end up with a clear breach of contract.

[essexspireman]

moondog, on 17 September 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

https://www.mirror.c...d-club-20082049

that article says Gerrard is one of the players fan are blaming for us dropping out the football league! I don't think we can pin that on him.

[azul]

Hands up who altered his WIki page?

Anthony Gerrard is fat and that he runs a burger van

[Spire-Power]

In other news Mansfield 0 Cambridge 4 🤣

[ArcticSpireite]

The lad goading him doesn't cover himself with much class but for him to drag Evo and Jack in for no reason and basically say he doesn't give a toss about the club or how we've fell is tasteless and unforgivable. Quite clearly here for nothing but the paycheck to fund his kebabs and pizzas. Don't ever want to see his fat ar*e again.

[stainlessstephen]

Why did we even sign him in the first place?

"Another fine mess, Stanley"

[Benno Spire]

The fans reaction to Gerrard the next time he squeezes into a blue shirt will be interesting

[Blue5]

moondog, on 17 September 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

https://www.mirror.c...d-club-20082049

I was not aware of the reason behind Gerrard's dismissal from Oldham until I read your link.

Just to be clear, a supporter can expect a 5 year ban if they participate in racist/homophobic/gender chanting or comments within the confines of the stadium.

Our recruitment policy and those implementing it appear to be at odds with every other policy which the club likes to roll-out as a tick-box exercise.

Perhaps Graham Bean can answer the question, why did Chesterfield Football Club sign Anthony Gerrard and make him club captain?

We are that consistently inconsistent it is laughable.

This post has been edited by Blue5: 18 September 2019 - 06:06 AM

[boot]

Benno Spire, on 18 September 2019 - 05:50 AM, said:

The fans reaction to Gerrard the next time he squeezes into a blue shirt will be interesting

Predictably mixed I guess. I will have no time for the ' f off and die Gerrard ' stuff that might come from a few morons though.
They are as bad as him. Gerrard shouldn't get near a blue shirt again never mind get inside one until he is fit - in which case that could be a long time.
It goes without saying the club now need to remove the captaincy from him.

[moondog]

The fact Gerrard hasn't published an apology on his Twitter page is quite telling