[Beelzebub]

apparently so

http://www.warrenuni...ffering-league/

21st most long suffering out of the 92

[Goku]

Do you mind explaining which six clubs in this division have a higher budget than us please

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

Beelzebub, on 15 April 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

apparently so

http://www.warrenuni...ffering-league/

21st most long suffering out of the 92

We even above mansfield in those 3 tables. Something's just don't change

[azul]

Ernie Ernie Ernie, on 15 April 2014 - 10:23 PM, said:

We even above mansfield in those 3 tables. Something's just don't change

8th position their best position

Can anyone explain the Urinals high position, the authors have obviously never listened to Grumble and Grumble on RS

[Xerxes]

Goku, on 15 April 2014 - 08:37 PM, said:

Do you mind explaining which six clubs in this division have a higher budget than us please

not sure what relevance this question has to this thread

Anyway. DA said in the fans forum in July that our budget was top six in the division

(Posted 29 July 2013 - 08:12 PM
Chesterfield FC
@ChesterfieldFC

Dave Allen - "We've gone 130K over budget. We're in the top six in our league as far as spend's concerned."

So who are the others? Fleetwood and Scunny, Mansfield (they clain to have had a £2m budget last season and have about 90 players), Northampton (spent big following play off final last year - didn't spend well!) and probably Portsmouth who, despite their problems still have 16k gates to call upon. The other well supported clubs, Plymouth, Oxford and Brizzle won't be far off either and Sarfend always spend more than their income.

It just shows that spending money doesn't guarantee success!!!

DA knows exactly what the other clubs spend as every club has to submit regular accounts to the FL and info is passed back to the clubs, so if he says we're top six that's where we'll be - if we were any higher he'd have been sure to mention it!

[Goku]

It was cos Beelzebub claimed that in another thread but I don't remember him explaining who. I was interested to know. I really don't think any out of those you provided are higher than us bar Fleetwood who are almost certainly higher than ours and Scunthorpe.

[Town_Fan]

Fleetwood could argue their budget is top 6.

[Middle East]

A Portsmouth fan came on here at the beginning of the season asking if a £1.2 million playing budget was good for this division as that's what the administrators had allowed them.

DA said ours was about £1.4 - £1.5 so if we are over budget by 150k we must have splashed out around £1.6 which is very healthy for this division but.....

DA said at the fans forum when we were in the relegation battle that he had underspent and a £2 million playing budget would be allocated if we stayed up. We didn't so that was never put to the test.

The question is, is £1.6 million enough to do anything other than survive in Div 1? Personally I think a couple of hundred thousand (2 players wages) need to be added, but then again its not my money and it will depend on our finances!

I don't think we are long suffering when compared to other clubs our size to be honest and the relegation aside the last 4 years have been great!

[Spire-Power]

Middle East, on 16 April 2014 - 10:31 AM, said:

A Portsmouth fan came on here at the beginning of the season asking if a £1.2 million playing budget was good for this division as that's what the administrators had allowed them.

DA said ours was about £1.4 - £1.5 so if we are over budget by 150k we must have splashed out around £1.6 which is very healthy for this division but.....

DA said at the fans forum when we were in the relegation battle that he had underspent and a £2 million playing budget would be allocated if we stayed up. We didn't so that was never put to the test.

The question is, is £1.6 million enough to do anything other than survive in Div 1? Personally I think a couple of hundred thousand (2 players wages) need to be added, but then again its not my money and it will depend on our finances!

I don't think we are long suffering when compared to other clubs our size to be honest and the relegation aside the last 4 years have been great!

The figures are beyond me but imo we could do with 2 good strikers, a CM, LM, LB and possibly RB. Balance against that the loss of at least Richards, Smith and Togwell and the loaning out of AG.

[Middle East]

Spire-Power, on 16 April 2014 - 01:39 PM, said:

The figures are beyond me but imo we could do with 2 good strikers, a CM, LM, LB and possibly RB. Balance against that the loss of at least Richards, Smith and Togwell and the loaning out of AG.

I fully agree with your assessment of whats required but assuming hird, brown and possibly broadhead may be on their way i would say a CH who can also cover RB would be a priority rather than an out and out full back.
2 quality forwards and a left back are absolutely crucial if we are to improve....

[Wooden Spoon]

I dont consider us long suffering, indeed, during my time watching town we have been fairly successful.

80/81 we won the Anglo scottish cup

84/85 we won the 4th division title

play off finalists 91/92

3rd div play off winners 94/95

FA cup semi final 96/97

League 2 winners 2010/11

Football league trophy winners 2011/12

Football league trophy Runers up 2013/14

Thats not bad is it - compared to a lot of clubs at our level thats great.

[Middle East]

death, on 16 April 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

I dont consider us long suffering, indeed, during my time watching town we have been fairly successful.

80/81 we won the Anglo scottish cup

84/85 we won the 4th division title

play off finalists 91/92

3rd div play off winners 94/95

FA cup semi final 96/97

League 2 winners 2010/11

Football league trophy winners 2011/12

Football league trophy Runers up 2013/14

Thats not bad is it - compared to a lot of clubs at our level thats great.

That is a perfect summing up of my time watching the town.....but i would dearly love to see us have at least one season in the championship before i turn my toes up.

My dad has but a few generations of us havent and i would love us to put that right!

[The Earl of Chesterfield]

death, on 16 April 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

I dont consider us long suffering, indeed, during my time watching town we have been fairly successful.

80/81 we won the Anglo scottish cup

84/85 we won the 4th division title

play off finalists 91/92

3rd div play off winners 94/95

FA cup semi final 96/97

League 2 winners 2010/11

Football league trophy winners 2011/12

Football league trophy Runers up 2013/14

Thats not bad is it - compared to a lot of clubs at our level thats great.

Don't forget the promotion of 2000/1.

Sure there was a stench surrounding Brown, but the fans did nothing wrong.

Infact they were amazing when dealing with the mess he left.

[Siberian Spireite]

death, on 16 April 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

I dont consider us long suffering, indeed, during my time watching town we have been fairly successful.

80/81 we won the Anglo scottish cup

84/85 we won the 4th division title

play off finalists 91/92

3rd div play off winners 94/95

FA cup semi final 96/97

League 2 winners 2010/11

Football league trophy winners 2011/12

Football league trophy Runers up 2013/14

Thats not bad is it - compared to a lot of clubs at our level thats great.

I've been following Town since 89 and it's been a far more interesting roller-coaster than it would have been had fate chucked me in with another club. It's clubs like Villa, Wednesday and in recent years Middlesbrough that really bore the pants off people, but I suppose someone has to.

This 'long-suffering' table is interesting but I can't grasp why (in the 1992-now table after Sky airbrushed football history) Torquay are 85th, Stoke's 86th shows that playing style is not taken into account, and Man U fans, to listen to them, have had it far worse than anyone else, ever, because they are not dominating this season. I even heard one on Talksport claiming that he'd seen plenty of managers come and go at Old Trafford, and he was 18 years old (!)

PS The first Wembley Playoff final was 1990, but I get your point and agree

This post has been edited by Siberian Spireite: 16 April 2014 - 04:52 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

MDCCCLXVI, on 16 April 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Don't forget the promotion of 2000/1.

Sure there was a stench surrounding Brown, but the fans did nothing wrong.

Infact they were amazing when dealing with the mess he left.

indeed yes, I completely forgot that one.

death, on 16 April 2014 - 03:51 PM, said:

I dont consider us long suffering, indeed, during my time watching town we have been fairly successful.

80/81 we won the Anglo scottish cup

84/85 we won the 4th division title

play off finalists 91/92

3rd div play off winners 94/95

FA cup semi final 96/97

Promotion to League 1 in 2000/01

League 2 winners 2010/11

Football league trophy winners 2011/12

Football league trophy Runers up 2013/14

Thats not bad is it - compared to a lot of clubs at our level thats great.