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#41 User is online   Goku 

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Posted 22 March 2018 - 10:38 PM

How dare they see us as weak because our prime minister is a female. They should see us as weak because she's weak damn it
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Posted 22 March 2018 - 11:13 PM

View PostDoughnut, on 22 March 2018 - 10:25 PM, said:

Absolutely. The Russian psyche is very different from ours. For example they see us as weak because our PM is female; this is the kind of mindset we're dealing with, so I caution anyone who assumes 'western' values or norms will be applied. Any locals beating up British/English fans will not be viewed negatively, more likely lauded for demonstrating the toughness of Russian people.

As the kid in the milk ad said, "Exactly ".
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:15 AM

Program on telly a few weeks back where they interviewed some battleworn fellas who had a past of being in an organised group who went to games for the punch up. Even they were saying they wouldn’t go as the Russians were trained, tooled up and ready to go.

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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:16 AM

The Wembley block 109 guys will handle them 😂😂
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:45 AM

View PostGoku, on 22 March 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

How dare they see us as weak because our prime minister is a female. They should see us as weak because she's weak damn it

So true and she shows how weak she is every week!
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 07:58 AM

A handful of friends have started to receive all the official documents from Russia. Fan passes etc. The thought of going to the word cup wouldn’t phase me. However I’d rather go toe to toe with a group of Spartak’s finest than those 24+ hour train journeys!
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 10:45 AM

View Postash_cfc, on 23 March 2018 - 07:58 AM, said:

A handful of friends have started to receive all the official documents from Russia. Fan passes etc. The thought of going to the word cup wouldn’t phase me. However I’d rather go toe to toe with a group of Spartak’s finest than those 24+ hour train journeys!

My first journey to work in Russia was on a train for four and a half days straight, in mid-winter.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 12:58 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 23 March 2018 - 10:45 AM, said:

My first journey to work in Russia was on a train for four and a half days straight, in mid-winter.


Sympathies, I've done overnight trains in Russia and that was enough for me
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 02:18 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 23 March 2018 - 10:45 AM, said:

My first journey to work in Russia was on a train for four and a half days straight, in mid-winter.

That's a hell of a daily commute. I hope you have a lap top and wi-fi.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 03:29 PM

View Postazul, on 22 March 2018 - 05:38 PM, said:

As Toddhopper suggested, Putin would not let his World Cup be spoiled by hooligans, after all we are all told he controls everything.

Now with the diplomatic relations so poor and Boris by extension comparing Russia with Nazi Germany (a sure red rag) and May trying to rally Europe against them, I'd give the whole thing a very wide berth.

The government has raised the stakes, the diplomatic staff have been slashed in a XXX for tat process - they should take it to the logical conclusion and seriously pressure the FA to call the whole thing off

From a pure football aspect putting politics and corruption aside - Russia was a valid choice, Qatar was just stupidity

Hope you're right about Putin not wanting his World Cup spoiled by a few hooligans. Contrast that with what a Russian government official said after his boys 'gave a good account of theirselves' in France. There was a programme on TV last year showing how their 'fans' are preparing by going to training camps, fighting each other, plus a strict regime of healthy eating and no alcohol, yeah I can just see them giving it a nice 'Dobre Utre' before kicking the ###### out of anyone wearing the cross of St. George.

My advice, stay away.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 03:32 PM

View PostGoku, on 22 March 2018 - 10:38 PM, said:

How dare they see us as weak because our prime minister is a female. They should see us as weak because she's weak damn it

If only we had voted Jeremy in.......
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 04:20 PM

View PostDoughnut, on 23 March 2018 - 02:18 PM, said:

That's a hell of a daily commute. I hope you have a lap top and wi-fi.

It was my first journey, from Moscow over to Chita in eastern Siberia where I had taken a teaching job on 100 quid per month (good wage, locally). The trains are safer in third class, which is open, than second, with its closed compartments. Most Russians are stand-offish to strangers but very hospitable once the ice is broken. Drinking beer bought from babushki at stations passes the time (or vodka and fish for the locals). I had no computer, no. Toilets were the worst part.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 09:07 PM

I think we should club together and send Carson.
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 09:25 PM

View PostMaverick, on 23 March 2018 - 03:32 PM, said:

If only we had voted Jeremy in.......

Exactly, all this russian poisoning stuff would have gone unreported whilst jezza was blowing putin to keep him sweet.
all we are saying, is give us ...a goal, or 2+
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 09:30 PM

View Postspireitetoo, on 23 March 2018 - 09:25 PM, said:

Exactly, all this russian poisoning stuff would have gone unreported whilst jezza was blowing putin to keep him sweet.

He'd have to get in line behind Trump
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Posted 23 March 2018 - 11:59 PM

View PostSiberian Spireite, on 23 March 2018 - 10:45 AM, said:

My first journey to work in Russia was on a train for four and a half days straight, in mid-winter.

With their safety record it’s probably better than an internal flight on some rickety old aircraft!!

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Posted 24 March 2018 - 11:28 AM

View PostJonB, on 23 March 2018 - 11:59 PM, said:

With their safety record it’s probably better than an internal flight on some rickety old aircraft!!

Indeed. I have flown on those old Antonovs (enter via the rear fuselage) and it's disconcerting having air hiss past your ear from a badly-sealed window at 30,000 feet and watching the stewardesses struggle to pull a trolley up over the joins between the metal boards in the aisle. Plus, most of the maintenance staff will be heavy drinkers (seriously).
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