[HistoricWarwick]

a kick in the balls, on 15 June 2015 - 03:54 PM, said:

Again we see yet more dithering over Greece, amid more fears of a Greek default on loan payments. As it has done for the last 2 years+ - most likely leading to no action anywhere, with Greece (and the wider euro zone) continuing to just muddle through.

They were too slow on interest rate cuts, were far too slow, and no where near aggressive enough when it came to implementing a programme of quantatitive easing to put money into the system.

The EU central bank is without leadership and has its head in the sand regarding levels of debt, investment and economic stimulusAnd you would love to join that chaos?


the sooner we leave this rediculous political project the better

It isn't the project, it is the members and a complete lack of vetting and rules.

Question - what is the only country to meet the original entry criteria for the EEC?

Clue - you're standing in it.

Even the Germans changed their tax policy to meet entry criteria.

The Mediterranean countries simply don't have the wherewithal to match northern states fiscal policy.

[Wooden Spoon]

HistoricWarwick said:

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It isn't the project, it is the members and a complete lack of vetting and rules.

Question - what is the only country to meet the original entry criteria for the EEC?

Clue - you're standing in it.

Even the Germans changed their tax policy to meet entry criteria.

The Mediterranean countries simply don't have the wherewithal to match northern states fiscal policy.

And you can add to that the internal audit. It's written that if if the EU were to fail an audit (intended to stop corruption) that the E U parliament would be suspended.


So, what do they do? Well they simply haven't had an audit for 19 years........it's the FIFA of the political world.


And people want to join this corrupt, undemocratic, self seving political entity that's blundering from one economic crisis to another?


The lunatics are truly running the asylum.

[HistoricWarwick]

a kick in the balls, on 16 June 2015 - 01:33 PM, said:

And you can add to that the internal audit. It's written that if if the EU were to fail an audit (intended to stop corruption) that the E U parliament would be suspended.


So, what do they do? Well they simply haven't had an audit for 19 years........it's the FIFA of the political world.


And people want to join this corrupt, undemocratic, self seving political entity that's blundering from one economic crisis to another?


The lunatics are truly running the asylum.

Personally I am for a group trade agreement and common policies on things like agriculture, fishing, energy and even economic policy if it is amongst like minded States.

However this model simply doesn't work.

[Wooden Spoon]

Well Greece is slowly sliding into the economic abyss while Europe fiddles....in the mean time markets give their verdict by falling share prices, rises in the £-€ and $-€ the euro is in fact sliding against most currencies - the interest charged on Italian, Spanish and Portuguese bonds rises. Portugal is now paying around 3.3% gradually creeping upwards, as Greece did until it becomes unsustainable.


We don't want to be anywhere near this disaster, never mind join it.

[Search & Destroy]

So, Italy are threatening to give EU passports to these knife wielding African Illegals unless the UK take their fair share?

Then of course under EU law they'd be European citizens like the rest of us.

It's madness.

[Elmer Fudd's Thick Lip]

No question for me now. Cameron sails on and tells the people what they think they want to hear, whereas Nigel Farage had an article in yesterday's Daily Mail, of all papers, especially after their pretty libelous campaign against him throughout the run up to the GE...

He said what most of us (I'd hope so anyway) are thinking. Shut our borders, adopt the Australian approach, and keep our great country safe from what we know is coming if we don't act now.

Let's be self governed, not part of a greater Europe, that wants to tell us what to do.

OUT!!

This post has been edited by Dave Wallers 'tache: 29 June 2015 - 07:05 PM

[Search & Destroy]

The doomsday merchants thought it would be the end of the world if we didn't join the Euro.

We're hardly "in" anyway so let's the f***** out

[Wooden Spoon]

Search and Destroy, on 29 June 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

So, Italy are threatening to give EU passports to these knife wielding African Illegals unless the UK take their fair share?

Then of course under EU law they'd be European citizens like the rest of us.

It's madness.

and share the economic disaster that's engulfed Greece, and will eventually consume Portugal, Spain, possibly even Italy.




Time to go. get this referendum out of the way and leave the EU...You would have be insane to want to be a part of it.

[Wooden Spoon]

a kick in the balls, on 30 June 2015 - 03:03 PM, said:

and share the economic disaster that's engulfed Greece, and will eventually consume Portugal, Spain, possibly even Italy.




Time to go. get this referendum out of the way and leave the EU...You would have be insane to want to be a part of it.

Greece defaults while UK growth 2.9% - yeah let's go with the Euro

[Halcyon]

Search and Destroy, on 29 June 2015 - 03:50 PM, said:

So, Italy are threatening to give EU passports to these knife wielding African Illegals unless the UK take their fair share?

Then of course under EU law they'd be European citizens like the rest of us.

It's madness.

To be fair, the UK has had a very similar policy since the late 90s. Illegals apply for asylum when they are detected. Most bring themselves to notice in order to qualify for benefits. Either they are granted asylum or, if not, they are allowed to remain "exceptionally" (this despite our authoritaries having no clue as to their real identity, nationality or possible criminal/terrorist history). They then complete 4 years residence, after which they can apply for UK citizenship via the box-ticking Citizenship Test. They then get a UK passport - in the identity used in the asylum claim made with no supporting documentary evidence.

This post has been edited by pompeyfan: 02 July 2015 - 03:22 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

pompeyfan, on 02 July 2015 - 03:21 PM, said:

To be fair, the UK has had a very similar policy since the late 90s. Illegals apply for asylum when they are detected. Most bring themselves to notice in order to qualify for benefits. Either they are granted asylum or, if not, they are allowed to remain "exceptionally" (this despite our authoritaries having no clue as to their real identity, nationality or possible criminal/terrorist history). They then complete 4 years residence, after which they can apply for UK citizenship via the box-ticking Citizenship Test. They then get a UK passport - in the identity used in the asylum claim made with no supporting documentary evidence.

is this how desperate you T055ERS are to post on our forum?

This post has been edited by a kick in the balls: 02 July 2015 - 04:50 PM

[Halcyon]

a kick in the balls, on 02 July 2015 - 04:50 PM, said:

is this how desperate you T055ERS are to post on our forum?

Sorry : what does "you TO55ERS" mean?

This post has been edited by pompeyfan: 03 July 2015 - 01:49 PM

[Wooden Spoon]

pompeyfan, on 03 July 2015 - 01:28 PM, said:

Sorry : what does "you TO55ERS" mean?

It means f#%^ off to your own Portsmouth fans forum

[Wooden Spoon]

So a couple of hours to wait, and then we will see.......more dithering and indecision. 5 years this has been running, and still the EU doesn't know what do.

[Ernie Ernie Ernie]

fishini, on 28 May 2015 - 08:01 PM, said:

Should brits abroad be treated with the same distain as we treat people who move here?

Where else abroad would a Brit get the same level access to services and benefits Fish?

[Wooden Spoon]

A NO vote.


Will the Greeks leave or will there be another couple of years of dithering first

[Wooden Spoon]

Looking more and more likely a an exit for the Greeks. They are saying now that why should the Greeks be given preferential treatment if they won't meet economic reforms.......fair comment, except that the EU itself hasn't had an internal audit for 19 yrs. if the EU can't even audit itself what right does it have to impose terms on a nation state?