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Dema Reborn, on 04 February 2016 - 10:46 PM, said:

I was embarrassed for him, but credit to him for having a go....

Are talking about Gary Neville or Chris Turner?

[Cartman]

Dema Reborn, on 04 February 2016 - 10:46 PM, said:

I was embarrassed for him, but credit to him for having a go....

no credit to him at all

he has been given a top job in management by his rich mate (who owns half of Salford City FC an all) and he is miles out of his depth

it's funny laughing at the self important know it all rat faced ****!

[Stockholm Spireite]

Another ex-pro fast-tracked through his badges, without the coaching hours under his belt, or the mentoring to support his inexperience.

It's a hell of a difference between sitting around playing with an Ipad, saying "that shouldn't have happened", and appearing to know a little more than a sky sports subscriber...

So the next time he, or any other pundit says "you can't defend like that against Suarez" or something similar, wait to see if they offer the solution among the banality and cliche. And when they don't, you realise why the comfy seat in the studio is such a good option for them...

[calvin plummers socks]

Stockholm Spireite, on 05 February 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

Another ex-pro fast-tracked through his badges, without the coaching hours under his belt, or the mentoring to support his inexperience.

Yep it's bad and I hate that. Been some calls for players to actually do an extended version of the courses rather than fast-tracked.
Because they have so many bad habits picked up over the years ingrained in them.

I did my Eufa B with manly ex or current pros (at the time) -many were so bad at actually leading a session and even a basic warm up without terrible nerves or blanking.

[azul]

Comeonyouirons, on 04 February 2016 - 03:47 PM, said:

I was hoping maybe Gary Neville

Any of that class of............ when ever it was would do for me

Car crash tele at its best

[essexspireman]

Comeonyouirons, on 04 February 2016 - 01:44 PM, said:

What I said was "tongue in cheek " but he has continued the almost faultless trend of Ex Fergie players who have failed in management .


Keane Ince Casper Robson some might say Bruce ( some might not )... Hughes probably the MOST successful ( whoopy doo ) Perhaps Giggs will be the next Sir Matt ( or Alex )

I said when Neville got the gig at Valencia ...Too big a job to start with ...for anyone

http://www.independe...01.html#gallery

Blanc and Strachan did OK too

[Misnomer]

Stockholm Spireite, on 05 February 2016 - 09:54 PM, said:

Another ex-pro fast-tracked through his badges, without the coaching hours under his belt, or the mentoring to support his inexperience.

It's a hell of a difference between sitting around playing with an Ipad, saying "that shouldn't have happened", and appearing to know a little more than a sky sports subscriber...

So the next time he, or any other pundit says "you can't defend like that against Suarez" or something similar, wait to see if they offer the solution among the banality and cliche. And when they don't, you realise why the comfy seat in the studio is such a good option for them...

It's so easy to examine what has been, rather than what is to come.....easy money for ex professionals like Neville; maybe he should have done a stint at Salford before a La Primera Liga club....

[Mr Mercury]

Sky said the door was always open for him to return as a pundit. But if he does go, as seems likely if they lose this weekend, how can he go back to pontificating to the masses with any real purpose, his credibility would be shot to pieces.
Reports that Benitez has already been offered the job!

This post has been edited by Mr Mercury: 06 February 2016 - 10:56 AM

[Misnomer]

Mr Mercury, on 06 February 2016 - 10:48 AM, said:

Sky said the door was always open for him to return as a pundit. But if he does go as seems likely, if they lose this weekend, how can he go back to pontificating to the masses with any real purpose, his credibility would be shot to pieces.
Reports that Benitez has already been offered the job!

My thoughts entirely, Merc. You know how it works, though; leave 'em under the table for a year or so, let time pass, then out they pop like nothing ever happened. Seems to be the format for most things that have some form of media attention/coverage....political, celebrity, sports, etc

[Mr Mercury]

Misnomer, on 06 February 2016 - 10:55 AM, said:

My thoughts entirely, Merc. You know how it works, though; leave 'em under the table for a year or so, let time pass, then out they pop like nothing ever happened. Seems to be the format for most things that have some form of media attention/coverage....political, celebrity, sports, etc

Yes I know what you mean, but a lot of the Soccer Saturday pundits, although some are failed managers, they only really offer asides to the games they watch. The likes of Carragher, RedKnapp, Henry and formally Neville actually disect and pull teams tactics, moves and selections etc to bits. Be interesting to,see what happens in the short term, oh and let's not forget this bloke is actually England assistant manager to boot...you couldn't make it up, could you?

[Stockholm Spireite]

calvin plummers socks, on 05 February 2016 - 11:39 PM, said:

Yep it's bad and I hate that. Been some calls for players to actually do an extended version of the courses rather than fast-tracked.
Because they have so many bad habits picked up over the years ingrained in them.

I did my Eufa B with manly ex or current pros (at the time) -many were so bad at actually leading a session and even a basic warm up without terrible nerves or blanking.

Seen it myself, also. I was even asked by some to do their session plans and give a nod when it was appropriate to intervene. And yet they still get the gig when a job beomes available. Playing intelligence rarely transfers to coaching intelligence (bar Cruyff, Beckenbauer, Ancelotti).

Misnomer, on 06 February 2016 - 10:34 AM, said:

It's so easy to examine what has been, rather than what is to come.....easy money for ex professionals like Neville; maybe he should have done a stint at Salford before a La Primera Liga club....

I think there's some that will always see themselves as "never going to manage at Salford's level, so no point putting in the hours with them" and to an extent I can agree with it. He's had a career in the premier league and only worked at elite level with top players around him. But, he's no experience of coaching or shadowing top coaches on a daily basis.


Guys like Tim Lees, who's been academy director at a couple of large(ish) clubs, should be either offered a promotion or go banging on the door to get it. There's a growing number of "up-and-coming-coaches" (age being irrelevant) who are changing the game at youth level, but need to break the glass ceiling. The sad thing is, that football being the bubble-world it is, they'll be very lucky to make it through. And even if they did, there'd be the inevitable undermining from the press as they "haven't played top flight" despite it not being a guarantee of anything.

[Spire-Heights]

Another defeat for Valencia and Gary today, he will be on his way later, back to Monday night football.

[Snowflake McBedwetter]

START THE ARMOURED CAR!