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Stockholm Spireite, on 16 February 2019 - 08:41 PM, said:

The fire brigade use that clip for training purposes to show how quickly quickly buildings and structures can be engulfed, depending on their shape and structure.

There's also harrowing testimony from the emergency services about how they couldn't reach some in the stands as the sheer heat from the fire repelled them. I feel great sorrow for a group of people who were trained and ready to respond, but couldn't. I've no idea how they carried that burden, desite being helpless in that situation.

The fact is there are so many variables that affect fire development and behaviour, all the video shows us is how that exact same building will behave in the exact same circumstances. A change of wind direction, fire starting in a different place, fuel against a different wall, any subtle change can lead to a completely different outcome. Once the fire caught hold it was a massive load of fuel with an unlimited supply of oxygen with a good ten minutes or so to grow completely unchallenged, almost impossible to stop in those circumstances.
The heat generated is incredible, you can see people’s clothes beginning to smoke when they are yards away from the fire, add into that the standard of fire kit was very different in those days they were probably still wearing plastic leggings and thin leather gloves, almost no thermal protection at all.

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dalekpete, on 17 February 2019 - 12:00 AM, said:

stanley matthews at saltergate DT 16 11 45.jpg

Played twice at Town.
My old man still talks about it

[ronpowellsbutler]

My old man used to regularly inform visitors that he had played at Saltergate on several occasions.

Only when pressed did he reveal that it was in the brass band at half time.

[JonB]

Stoke keeper to wear a one off shirt in tomorrows game :-
https://twitter.com/...885108239609856

[valemadness]

We've got a special in the program tomorrow by Jim Brown and are having a minutes applause before the start of the match too.

[Occasional visitor]

bifocart, on 16 February 2019 - 02:40 AM, said:

Threads like these on Gordon Banks remind me of how nice this board can be.

How many of us recall Gordon at Stoke crossing the Victoria Ground pitch and shaking hands with Stevo before the third round game?
At the time I was glad Stevo didnt go to Leeds, and he clearly had a great time of it at Burnley and is still well thought of there , but I wonder if it cost him an England cap?

Either way, the two best keepers in the country played in that cup tie, and Town found 'em both.

I seem to recall an article about Stevenson in the DT when he was playing for town.
Apparently when Stoke were playing at home & town didn't have a game (usually midweek), Stevo used to go to the game, pay his money to stand behind the goal (no blagging a complimentary ticket) just to study Banks. He wasn't interested in anything else, just the way Gordon conducted himself, how he organised/spoke to his defence, his positioning etc. He said he learnt a hell of a lot from those trips to the Victoria Ground. He turned into a more than half decent 'keeper himself.